Hokies still listed among Lunardi's First Four Out. What gives?
Thought the Clemson win would have pushed us into safer territory.
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2hhoop3
5mo
for content still giving that clown a voice.
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5mo
He’s not the only one and there’s about 40 more accurate than him that has us last 4 I. Or even with a bye
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5mo
To get to “feel safe” territory we probably need to hold serve at home and win at least 2 of the 3 remaining road games. The games we blew against Stanford and SMU are looming large now. At this point we just have to keep playing like we did at Clemson.
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5mo
losses we’ll still be squarely on the bubble going into the ACC tournament. Hope to be wrong.
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5mo
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Vippie1
5mo
Bottom line IMO hasn't changed since ACC play opened, go 10-8 and we're safe. Go 9-9 and we will need at least 2 wins in acc tourney.
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EDGEMAN
5mo
Need to take care of this before the ACCT.
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5mo
We use to always say team X needed to win one or two in their conference tourneys. I think the committee has a firm grasp of who they have in before the major conf tourneys. I think the only time they adjust is if team X makes it to the final or wins the whole thing...and I think even making it to the final doesn't affect it if they feel team X is on the outside looking in before the conf tourney.
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Vippie1
5mo
considers them as last tie breakers.
They seed most everything before the conclusion of the conference tournaments and hate to change things because one change can open up the need for lots of changes on locations seeds etc.
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5mo
The dont seed ahead of the conf tourneys.
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Vippie1
5mo
Doesn't mean it is written in stone but they have to start somewhere. They will make adjustments obviously if games dont play out the way they suspect. But my point is they don't like to make wholesale changes unless they really have to.
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5mo
However, since I think they "lock themselves in the room" on Wed or Thurs during the second week of conference tournaments, what are they discussing while the conference tournaments are still going on?
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5mo
Procedure used to fill the brackets. They take the cnet scores as soon as the conference tourneys are complete. They don’t pre seed because of the geographic placement of the 1 and 2 seeds and other factors. I’ve heard they run practice runs leading up to the conf tourneys. But it’s just for practice. I don’t have the link to the document but I found it on google a few months ago. The ncaa published it to head off criticism over the process. I think it’s a year or two old.
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5mo
deviation is there between some of the practice runs and the actual bracket. I mean it is possible a practice run may have used the same 2 teams for the #1 and #2 seeds for a region. Then it may be a plug and play situation with a few minor tweaks to account for upsets in a conference tourney or changes in which school will receive a conference's automatic bid.
I am thinking about the timeline for Selection Sunday. If the final conference tournament doesn't end until sometime between 4-5pm (maybe 6pm at the latest) and the Selection Show is around 7 or 7:30pm, then that doesn't give the Committee much time especially if committee members are required to leave the room while they debate their team. Plus, I think in one of the interviews the committee chair said they started working the actual bracket earlier that day before all the tournaments were completed. Then all they needed to do is make a few minor changes once all the tournaments are complete.
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