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hokiecity OP
Feb 13, 2026 at 09:45 AM ET
Hokies still listed among Lunardi's First Four Out. What gives?
Thought the Clemson win would have pushed us into safer territory. https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketolo...

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2hhoop3
5mo
ESPN is desperate......
for content still giving that clown a voice.
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ancient alien 2018
5mo
Or he has "photos" of ESPN brass???
hokiepro hokiepro
5mo
Lunardi has had us lower than about 70% of bracketologists
He’s not the only one and there’s about 40 more accurate than him that has us last 4 I. Or even with a bye
NC Hoke NC Hoke
5mo
Still work to do.
To get to “feel safe” territory we probably need to hold serve at home and win at least 2 of the 3 remaining road games. The games we blew against Stanford and SMU are looming large now. At this point we just have to keep playing like we did at Clemson.
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HwoodHokie
5mo
You think we need to go 5-1???
NC Hoke NC Hoke
5mo
I know that won’t be a popular opinion, but yes. I think with 2 more
losses we’ll still be squarely on the bubble going into the ACC tournament. Hope to be wrong.
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HwoodHokie
5mo
Yeah who knows. I feel like 4-2 is a lock and 3-3 still a chance
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HokiesACC2004
5mo
Still February
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marcbvtgm
5mo
Does it really matter? Still a long way to go.
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squarerootofone
5mo
i have lunardi in my first four out, so we're even.
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Vippie1
5mo
A lot of schools bunched and it is splitting hairs
Bottom line IMO hasn't changed since ACC play opened, go 10-8 and we're safe. Go 9-9 and we will need at least 2 wins in acc tourney.
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EDGEMAN
5mo
Don't count on tourney wins to impact NCAAT seeding.
Need to take care of this before the ACCT.
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The_VT_Rock
5mo
Correct...
We use to always say team X needed to win one or two in their conference tourneys. I think the committee has a firm grasp of who they have in before the major conf tourneys. I think the only time they adjust is if team X makes it to the final or wins the whole thing...and I think even making it to the final doesn't affect it if they feel team X is on the outside looking in before the conf tourney.
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Vippie1
5mo
Agree, think the committee only
considers them as last tie breakers. They seed most everything before the conclusion of the conference tournaments and hate to change things because one change can open up the need for lots of changes on locations seeds etc.
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GreenvilleVT
5mo
This is not the way it works.
The dont seed ahead of the conf tourneys.
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Vippie1
5mo
They have mock seeding starting on the weekends , yes
Doesn't mean it is written in stone but they have to start somewhere. They will make adjustments obviously if games dont play out the way they suspect. But my point is they don't like to make wholesale changes unless they really have to.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
5mo
Given the conference tournaments are over 2 weekends, that is probably true
However, since I think they "lock themselves in the room" on Wed or Thurs during the second week of conference tournaments, what are they discussing while the conference tournaments are still going on?
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GreenvilleVT
5mo
You can actually google this and find the
Procedure used to fill the brackets. They take the cnet scores as soon as the conference tourneys are complete. They don’t pre seed because of the geographic placement of the 1 and 2 seeds and other factors. I’ve heard they run practice runs leading up to the conf tourneys. But it’s just for practice. I don’t have the link to the document but I found it on google a few months ago. The ncaa published it to head off criticism over the process. I think it’s a year or two old.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
5mo
I have heard they have practice runs too. I do wonder though how much of a
deviation is there between some of the practice runs and the actual bracket. I mean it is possible a practice run may have used the same 2 teams for the #1 and #2 seeds for a region. Then it may be a plug and play situation with a few minor tweaks to account for upsets in a conference tourney or changes in which school will receive a conference's automatic bid. I am thinking about the timeline for Selection Sunday. If the final conference tournament doesn't end until sometime between 4-5pm (maybe 6pm at the latest) and the Selection Show is around 7 or 7:30pm, then that doesn't give the Committee much time especially if committee members are required to leave the room while they debate their team. Plus, I think in one of the interviews the committee chair said they started working the actual bracket earlier that day before all the tournaments were completed. Then all they needed to do is make a few minor changes once all the tournaments are complete.