I think the ACC needs to do better.
I'm not saying it's a weaker league than the others. What I'm saying is that you've got one school stuck in the past (Syracuse) who seems to be scheduling for RPI rankings even though the RPI isn't used anymore. You've got another school (FSU) who has a better record against ACC opponents than non-ACC opponents, which reflects poorly on the league. You've got another school (NC State) that is 0-5 against Q1 teams. Three of our top 50 NET teams (Wake, UVA and VT) are a combined 2-11 in Q1 games. Etc.
I don't know if the ACC is stronger, weaker, or exactly the same as the others. I don't care, either, because to me the ultimate sign of success is getting a decent number of teams in the NCAA Tournament. People complained about the RPI, so they changed it. Now people are complaining about the NET. People will always complain. Do I think all the criticism of the ACC is warranted? No, not really, but at the same time it is partially the ACC's fault for all the reasons I stated above. The league isn't doing all it can do to change the narrative. Don't like what people are saying? Well, don't lose at home to Lipscomb, FSU. Don't lose to FAU by 34, Virginia Tech. Don't get shellacked by the league's second-worst team, UVA. Don't lose to an awful Georgia Tech team, UNC and Duke. Beat somebody with a pulse, NC State. Schedule smarter, Syracuse. Etc.
** Edited by Chris Coleman at 1/31/2024, 10:44:20 AM
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Thread Replies (38)
How do we know ACC is really that weak?
-- knapnhokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 02:14 AM ET
knapnhokie
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01/31/24 02:14 AM ET
I think the ACC needs to do better.
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-- Chris Coleman
Jan 31, 2024 at 10:43 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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01/31/24 10:43 AM ET
Clemson is doing just fine because they laid the wood to teams in
-- HokieHigh
Feb 01, 2024 at 12:21 PM ET
HokieHigh
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02/01/24 12:21 PM ET
The ACC has really shot itself in the foot the past several years
-- hoosnowahokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 02:55 PM ET
hoosnowahokie
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01/31/24 02:55 PM ET
And Louisville as a traditional power just stinking
-- turkeywinghokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 01:26 PM ET
turkeywinghokie
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01/31/24 01:26 PM ET
Maybe the ACC needs to play more conference games early and more OOC games
-- dallasvt
Jan 31, 2024 at 11:50 AM ET
dallasvt
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01/31/24 11:50 AM ET
I think that would be tough.
-- Chris Coleman
Jan 31, 2024 at 12:08 PM ET
Chris Coleman
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01/31/24 12:08 PM ET
Agreed, it would be tough to schedule games. The ACC has to get out of
-- dallasvt
Jan 31, 2024 at 12:28 PM ET
dallasvt
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01/31/24 12:28 PM ET
need to get out of the gate better? Isn't that, need to be better?
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 02:49 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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01/31/24 02:49 PM ET
I said get better out of the gate because the ACC has had success in the
-- dallasvt
Jan 31, 2024 at 05:45 PM ET
dallasvt
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01/31/24 05:45 PM ET
Several ACC teams had important players missing due to the transfer rulings
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 03:05 PM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 03:05 PM ET
They lost those games. Of course their ranking should take a hit.
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 04:53 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 04:53 PM ET
Counter argument this year is ACC 8 B12 3 head to head
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 11:36 AM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 11:36 AM ET
Conf v Conf records can be deceiving, as this one is
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 12:56 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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01/31/24 12:56 PM ET
ND isn’t middle tier they’re next to last
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 01:02 PM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 01:02 PM ET
ND beat OKState, who is last in the B12
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 01:05 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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01/31/24 01:05 PM ET
And as we've always known, no matter what system is used...
-- Chris Coleman
Jan 31, 2024 at 11:44 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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01/31/24 11:44 AM ET
Because why would game results vs another conference matter when comparing
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 11:52 AM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 11:52 AM ET
Because there is a lot of variability between teams in each of those
-- NokieHokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 12:11 PM ET
NokieHokie
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01/31/24 12:11 PM ET
That’s of course true but if you look at the results??
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 12:37 PM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 12:37 PM ET
TX is 2nd to last, so UL loss is crap vs crap
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 01:01 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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01/31/24 01:01 PM ET
ISU, Baylor, OU, TCU are all top 1/2 of league
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 01:08 PM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 01:08 PM ET
and you're manipulating the presentation to favor the ACC
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 01:17 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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01/31/24 01:17 PM ET
We agree on the middle paragraph **
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 01:37 PM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 01:37 PM ET
Agree with all of that,.......
-- 2hhoop3
Jan 31, 2024 at 11:32 AM ET
2hhoop3
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01/31/24 11:32 AM ET
Right, I have an issue with the size of conference schedules.
-- Chris Coleman
Jan 31, 2024 at 11:46 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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01/31/24 11:46 AM ET
Do you really think there won't be griping about who gets in and who is
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 01:44 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 01:44 PM ET
I do have one additional thought on a massive expansion of the field
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 02:26 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 02:26 PM ET
They aren't...but ESPN has a larger goal of killing the ACC...
-- RRHokie90
Jan 31, 2024 at 09:40 AM ET
RRHokie90
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01/31/24 09:40 AM ET
Does ESPN also have a mustache that is constantly being twisted and an
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 10:50 AM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 10:50 AM ET
Yep and college football is tied to the train tracks...
-- RRHokie90
Jan 31, 2024 at 11:12 AM ET
RRHokie90
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01/31/24 11:12 AM ET
He's off arguing on a message board about the SECPN conspiracy theory**
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 01:03 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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01/31/24 01:03 PM ET
The ACC doesn't know how to game computer rankings
-- 6thStreetHokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 08:22 AM ET
6thStreetHokie
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01/31/24 08:22 AM ET