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A few thoughts...

First of all, the griping already is background noise. No one cares about who is left out, other than the teams being left out. I think maybe it SEEMS more relevant to us because VT has frequently been a bubble team. But no one outside of VT cares if VT gets in or out or thinks the tournament is better or worse because we're in or out. The same will be true for the 257th team. So the griping will be EXACTLY the same -- except you won't have to worry about it being VT who is griping. Second, 256 being an even number isn't a very good case for 256. Byes happen in many sports playoffs, expanding all the way to 256 just to avoid byes doesn't seem like a very good reason. Why is inclusion of 256 teams better than 64ish? It adds games, I suppose. But does that make the tournament better? I don't really see how. And if you think more is better, why not include every D1 team and figure out how do make the numbers work? I guess I don't see why 256 is better than 64ish but not better than 351. If you want to be inclusive and eliminate the need to make difficult selection decisions, just include everyone. Everyone gets a participation trophy! Finally, I don't think a larger field minimizes useless/biased selection tools. It simply kicks the can down to 256 rather than 64. Also, seeding will become even MORE important in a larger field. With more games and more places to trip up, the path to a championship would hinge MORE on who is in one's bracket. So you haven't elminated bias at all -- it's still there with regard to seeding and regions. The complains and whining will simply shift from who got in and who was left out to who was favored in the seedings and path to a championship. Seems to me it just waters down the tournament A single elmination tournament with 256 teams seems like even more of a crap shoot than now.
Posted: 01/31/2024 at 02:20 PM ET
(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

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How do we know ACC is really that weak?
knapnhokie 01/31/24 02:14 AM ET
I think the ACC needs to do better.
Chris ColemanAdmin 01/31/24 10:43 AM ET
Clemson is doing just fine because they laid the wood to teams in
HokieHigh 02/01/24 12:21 PM ET
The ACC has really shot itself in the foot the past several years
hoosnowahokie 01/31/24 02:55 PM ET
And Louisville as a traditional power just stinking
turkeywinghokie 01/31/24 01:26 PM ET
Maybe the ACC needs to play more conference games early and more OOC games
dallasvt 01/31/24 11:50 AM ET
I think that would be tough.
Chris ColemanAdmin 01/31/24 12:08 PM ET
Agreed, it would be tough to schedule games. The ACC has to get out of
dallasvt 01/31/24 12:28 PM ET
need to get out of the gate better? Isn't that, need to be better?
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 02:49 PM ET
I said get better out of the gate because the ACC has had success in the
dallasvt 01/31/24 05:45 PM ET
Several ACC teams had important players missing due to the transfer rulings
hokiepro 01/31/24 03:05 PM ET
They lost those games. Of course their ranking should take a hit.
Pride_and_Joy 01/31/24 04:53 PM ET
Counter argument this year is ACC 8 B12 3 head to head
hokiepro 01/31/24 11:36 AM ET
Conf v Conf records can be deceiving, as this one is
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 12:56 PM ET
ND isn’t middle tier they’re next to last
hokiepro 01/31/24 01:02 PM ET
ND beat OKState, who is last in the B12
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 01:05 PM ET
And as we've always known, no matter what system is used...
Chris ColemanAdmin 01/31/24 11:44 AM ET
Because why would game results vs another conference matter when comparing
hokiepro 01/31/24 11:52 AM ET
Because there is a lot of variability between teams in each of those
NokieHokie 01/31/24 12:11 PM ET
That’s of course true but if you look at the results??
hokiepro 01/31/24 12:37 PM ET
TX is 2nd to last, so UL loss is crap vs crap
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 01:01 PM ET
ISU, Baylor, OU, TCU are all top 1/2 of league
hokiepro 01/31/24 01:08 PM ET
and you're manipulating the presentation to favor the ACC
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 01:17 PM ET
We agree on the middle paragraph **
hokiepro 01/31/24 01:37 PM ET
Agree with all of that,.......
2hhoop3 01/31/24 11:32 AM ET
Right, I have an issue with the size of conference schedules.
Chris ColemanAdmin 01/31/24 11:46 AM ET
Given that the tools......
2hhoop3 01/31/24 12:26 PM ET
Do you really think there won't be griping about who gets in and who is
Pride_and_Joy 01/31/24 01:44 PM ET
The griping would be......
2hhoop3 01/31/24 02:07 PM ET
I do have one additional thought on a massive expansion of the field
Pride_and_Joy 01/31/24 02:26 PM ET
A few thoughts...
Pride_and_Joy 01/31/24 02:20 PM ET
The griping is.......
2hhoop3 01/31/24 03:52 PM ET
They aren't...but ESPN has a larger goal of killing the ACC...
RRHokie90 01/31/24 09:40 AM ET
Does ESPN also have a mustache that is constantly being twisted and an
Pride_and_Joy 01/31/24 10:50 AM ET
Yep and college football is tied to the train tracks...
RRHokie90 01/31/24 11:12 AM ET
He's off arguing on a message board about the SECPN conspiracy theory**
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 01:03 PM ET
Simple,
VTCALS72 01/31/24 08:49 AM ET
The ACC doesn't know how to game computer rankings
6thStreetHokie 01/31/24 08:22 AM ET
Simple answer: it isn't**
EDGEMAN 01/31/24 06:36 AM ET