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The griping is.......

much more than background noise now with or without VT. Nobody(or very few) will be paying any attention to Joe Lunardi when he is projecting 256 vs. 257. 256 was just my choice because (1) I do not care for byes, (2) that number provides a clean break for adding one additional week for the tournament and fairly easy solutions to address that impact on the regular season and conference tourneys and (3) likely less difficult resolution of other travel and logistical issues. Also, I believe the seed is the reward/recognition for regular season results that maintains competitive equality within the tourney. 256 is in reality no better than 64 which is not necessarily any better than 32 it just shifts the debate. The larger field does shift the debate more to seedings and regions, a debate that exists now as well but, the tool impact is reduced even more at 256 vs 257 than in a smaller field. Just as important there is a greater likelihood that tool inequities are addressed on the court as opposed to inside a computer or by committee preference. The tournament was watered down going from 32 to 48 and by the subsequent further expansions. If you look at Final Fours and actual champions there are a relatively small number of instances going deeper than the Top 32. I understand why it happened as Maryland was likely the 2nd best team in the country the year NCSU sent them home in the ACC tourney. However, I think the reality is that the NCAA tourney expansion since the expansion to 32, and like the current CFP expansion is about TV and money and, that being the case, I see no reason that going to 256 really waters anything down that much and you have an even further extended Cinderella storyline. You're entitled to your opinion and to disagree. Just my opinion and an explanation of my rationale.
Posted: 01/31/2024 at 03:52 PM ET
(In response to this post by Pride_and_Joy)

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How do we know ACC is really that weak?
knapnhokie 01/31/24 02:14 AM ET
I think the ACC needs to do better.
Chris ColemanAdmin 01/31/24 10:43 AM ET
Clemson is doing just fine because they laid the wood to teams in
HokieHigh 02/01/24 12:21 PM ET
The ACC has really shot itself in the foot the past several years
hoosnowahokie 01/31/24 02:55 PM ET
And Louisville as a traditional power just stinking
turkeywinghokie 01/31/24 01:26 PM ET
Maybe the ACC needs to play more conference games early and more OOC games
dallasvt 01/31/24 11:50 AM ET
I think that would be tough.
Chris ColemanAdmin 01/31/24 12:08 PM ET
Agreed, it would be tough to schedule games. The ACC has to get out of
dallasvt 01/31/24 12:28 PM ET
need to get out of the gate better? Isn't that, need to be better?
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 02:49 PM ET
I said get better out of the gate because the ACC has had success in the
dallasvt 01/31/24 05:45 PM ET
Several ACC teams had important players missing due to the transfer rulings
hokiepro 01/31/24 03:05 PM ET
They lost those games. Of course their ranking should take a hit.
Pride_and_Joy 01/31/24 04:53 PM ET
Counter argument this year is ACC 8 B12 3 head to head
hokiepro 01/31/24 11:36 AM ET
Conf v Conf records can be deceiving, as this one is
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 12:56 PM ET
ND isn’t middle tier they’re next to last
hokiepro 01/31/24 01:02 PM ET
ND beat OKState, who is last in the B12
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 01:05 PM ET
And as we've always known, no matter what system is used...
Chris ColemanAdmin 01/31/24 11:44 AM ET
Because why would game results vs another conference matter when comparing
hokiepro 01/31/24 11:52 AM ET
Because there is a lot of variability between teams in each of those
NokieHokie 01/31/24 12:11 PM ET
That’s of course true but if you look at the results??
hokiepro 01/31/24 12:37 PM ET
TX is 2nd to last, so UL loss is crap vs crap
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 01:01 PM ET
ISU, Baylor, OU, TCU are all top 1/2 of league
hokiepro 01/31/24 01:08 PM ET
and you're manipulating the presentation to favor the ACC
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 01:17 PM ET
We agree on the middle paragraph **
hokiepro 01/31/24 01:37 PM ET
Agree with all of that,.......
2hhoop3 01/31/24 11:32 AM ET
Right, I have an issue with the size of conference schedules.
Chris ColemanAdmin 01/31/24 11:46 AM ET
Given that the tools......
2hhoop3 01/31/24 12:26 PM ET
Do you really think there won't be griping about who gets in and who is
Pride_and_Joy 01/31/24 01:44 PM ET
The griping would be......
2hhoop3 01/31/24 02:07 PM ET
I do have one additional thought on a massive expansion of the field
Pride_and_Joy 01/31/24 02:26 PM ET
A few thoughts...
Pride_and_Joy 01/31/24 02:20 PM ET
The griping is.......
2hhoop3 01/31/24 03:52 PM ET
They aren't...but ESPN has a larger goal of killing the ACC...
RRHokie90 01/31/24 09:40 AM ET
Does ESPN also have a mustache that is constantly being twisted and an
Pride_and_Joy 01/31/24 10:50 AM ET
Yep and college football is tied to the train tracks...
RRHokie90 01/31/24 11:12 AM ET
He's off arguing on a message board about the SECPN conspiracy theory**
Vienna_Hokie 01/31/24 01:03 PM ET
Simple,
VTCALS72 01/31/24 08:49 AM ET
The ACC doesn't know how to game computer rankings
6thStreetHokie 01/31/24 08:22 AM ET
Simple answer: it isn't**
EDGEMAN 01/31/24 06:36 AM ET