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5thFloorLee OP
May 26, 2025 at 02:34 PM ET
The NCAAT / SEC Invitational starts Friday
29 conferences in the tournament The SEC gets: 12 of the 35 at large bids 8 of the 16 regional host spots 6 of the 8 Super Regional host spots

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HokiesACC2004
It's the best leauge, sorry
hokiepro hokiepro
GT won the regular season of a conference that got 3 host teams
But they don’t get to host? Excuse me what????
hokiepro hokiepro
It is but they get over seeded
Both can be true
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HokiesACC2004
I see your point
hokiepro hokiepro
Yeah when you put 6 of the top 8 hosting first 2 rounds
It’s actually them UNDERACHIEVING if they don’t get 6 to the CWS. There needs to be some conference consideration in that 6-8 seed range so as not to stack ALL host spots with the top conference. Of course they’re going to have more top 25 wins etc etc because they have more opportunities It’s like in Softball…yes you can say VT shouldn’t have lost to Pitt or IF they beat Clemson they’d host…WELL by YOUR metrics (committee), VT was well ahead of Oregon, Bama and even TTech. But then all of a sudden it was “number of top 25 WINS” for Bama but they didn’t consider the win % being so low for them…yet they cited win % as an advantage for Oregon. I’m just saying the committee is a bunch of politicians who will spin their narrative when answering a question about a specific team but it often contradicts how things are done elsewhere in the bracket and they’re just hoping they aren’t asked about those discrepancies. They’ve seeded the tournaments both softball and baseball setting up the SEC to have as many teams in OKC & Omaha respectively. Note the only SEC team not playing another SEC team in softball yesterday did lose. Also in Supers all of the SEC hosts vs non-Sec teams were taken to 3 full games and they ended up winning 2 of 3 (Tennessee over Neb, Texas over Clemson) but all those wins for Tennessee & Texas were 1 run home wins. It’s not Iike they’re completely dominating non-SEC teams ** Edited by hokiepro at 5/30/2025, 11:44:50 AM
hokiepro hokiepro
ACC got hosed AGAIN. It’s so obvious what’s happening
But nobody will call out the NCAA BECAUSE ESPN is complicit One top 8 seed and #9 FSU if they win at home has to travel to Corvallis, OR for supers
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QCP
I'm not so sure the ACC got hosed this year. A lot depends on what...
ranking system you want to give weight to but here is a look at how the different teams ranked in RPI, KPI (which the selection committee is provided as an additional data point) and the Massey Composite (which incorporates multiple rating systems). ACC #1 Seeds - UNC: Overall Seed of #5. RPI of #6, KPI of #2, Composite of #3. For reference, the teams above them had rankings of 1/1/1 (Vanderbilt), 4/3/4 (Texas), 5/4/2 (Arkansas) and 3/5/9 (Auburn). I think you could make an argument they should have maybe been the #4 seed above Auburn and they are really close to Texas and Arkansas. Either way, I don't think their seeding was egregious. - Florida State: Overall Seed of #9. RPI of #14, KPI of #11, Composite of #15. With them, I think you could make the argument they actually got a favorable seeding. - Clemson: Overall Seed of #11. RPI of #9, KPI of #8, Composite of #16. With them, they probably have an argument they should have been ranked higher by a few spots and arguably could have been swapped with Florida State based on their rankings. Outside of that, Georgia Tech was in the mix for a #1 seed and obviously being the regular season ACC champions is a big accomplishment...but it's hard to use that as an argument now that leagues are so much bigger and the schedule imbalances that exist. In any case, I think they should have gotten a #1 seed over Souther Mississippi (19/28/20), but I think both Alabama (13/14/19) and Florida (17/16/13) had just as compelling of rankings as GT (21/17/18) did so it's hard to say it was specifically the ACC getting hosed and somehow as a result of the SEC. Beyond that, I think the other ACC teams are seeded pretty reasonably. And then with UVA missing the tournament, I don't think they got hosed either when you look at their ratings compared to the Last 4 that got in. Here is how they stacked up against those teams in the same rankings (RPI/KPI/Composite): - Arizona State: 49/34/32 - Kansas State: 37/42/45 - Oklahoma State: 44/32/36 - USC: 45/43/43 ------------ - UVA: 64/47/41 Their RPI sticks out like a sore thumb. Even if you ignore that, they are lower than all four in the KPI system and are just barely above USC and Kansas State in the Massey Composite.
hokiepro hokiepro
Uva didn’t
Clemson should’ve been 8; GT hosting
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Hockeydad
Excellent research. Thanks
hokiepro hokiepro
That started with softball
And got worse when FSU was paired vs the best pitcher in the country in #12 seed Texas Tech so no SEC team would be knocked out by her.
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HokiesACC2004
How many games in the ACC would Missouri win?
How many in the SEC would NC State win in softball?
hokiepro hokiepro
Idk. I know Mizzou was swept by UK,
But UK couldn’t touch VT, Stanford or Clemson Clemson beat USCe & Tennessee Stanford beat Texas FSU shut out Florida Hokies beat UK & Bama (split during reg season) The records of the top teams head to head didn’t match seeds given
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Battlesuggs
What a Joke
The ACC doesnt get hosed. The ACC cant compete. Its by far the worst football conference of the major conferences and always has been. Going 2-12 or whatever it was in the ACC Sec basketball tells you all you need to know. There have been 43 softball national champions. The ACC has won 1. There have been 77 baseball national champions. The ACC has won 2. The flaw is not with the committee its that the ACC stinks. Our problem is we are always squarely on the bubble either to get in or to host. How about being just a little bit better and not being on the bubble. Quit your insufferable whining
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Scream_On_D
why are you posting on a VT board if you love SEC? We all hate SEC here-FYI
hokiepro hokiepro
Because ESPN & SEC have done that
Go back to FSU football snub ESPN & SEC have carried the narrative the ACC was inferior when it wasn’t true NOW they’ve made it come true over the course of the last decade It’s definitely true now in football & basketball but it’s much closer in baseball and softball so since ESPN runs the tourney they’re setting up the ACC to fail in those tourneys too thru seeding bias ** Edited by hokiepro at 5/27/2025, 7:08:42 AM
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Battlesuggs
Records
While no one will disagree that the ACC was once the best basketball conference, the ACC was never close to the SEC in football. Here are the records by decade with the ACC listed first. 1950s. 17-34 1960s. 11-62-4 1970s. 21-46-1 1980s. 21-37-2 1990s. 26-33-1 2000s. 32-47 2010s. 44-57 2020s 17-34 Bowl Games 31-56 If you want to go by seasons the acc has had the better record 11 times the overall record by season is 11-56-4. While the ACC did get up to a 44 pct winning pct 1 decade and improved, which decade was the ACC better or equal. Clemson is an impressive 47-76 against the SEC. FSU is the only team with a winning record. You want good television. FSU lost their qb, they would have been destroyed had they made it