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I was impressed with Lincoln also on TT - but had to notice what the rise

is and isnt these days - The corkscrew spin has replaced the backward spin...I have not seen many true rises (but also have not watch in detail a lot of softball this year). We were spoiled with AT - thing of beauty it was! My oldest through a true rise right spin (per Denny) but could not break 55 mph with it...we called it the rise change - she got a lot of swing and misses and was all-state but had school in her future. Was your girl a true riser? Do you know of any out there these days? Pitchers seem uncommited to "keeping the body sideways to allow the arm to come through and create the proper spin (they see the drop in mph too and its over for them mentally). The rise we see today still goes up from its release point to catcher - but never hops - maybe a swerve - but not a hop like AT's... Honestly, K Fleet had a true rise in HS - not sure what JMU has done too her - no real pitching coach there - just a hitting coach that calls her pitches...shame for that program. Our staff at VT has a ton of pitching experience, but hard to take a kid that has learned one way for ten years and change them in <4yrs with a new D1 pitch...very hard...IMHO
Posted: 06/04/2026 at 08:26 AM ET
(In response to this post by MidloHokie)

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Kavan is best pitcher I have seen entire tourney! Surgical and 3 great
U2Hokie 06/03/26 09:17 PM ET
Student of the late Bill Hillhouse. I've written here before the most . . .
MidloHokie 06/04/26 06:17 AM ET
I believe he died recently. I used to follow him on
public knowledge 06/04/26 09:25 AM ET
Yes, unfortunately.**
MidloHokie 06/04/26 12:00 PM ET
Line Drive Media did a very nice tribute to him (linked)
VTChip 06/04/26 11:12 AM ET
Where was Bill Hillhouse from?**
U2Hokie 06/04/26 08:28 AM ET
Erie, PA...
VTChip 06/04/26 11:14 AM ET
I was impressed with Lincoln also on TT - but had to notice what the rise
U2Hokie 06/04/26 08:26 AM ET
On the rise ball . . .
MidloHokie 06/04/26 11:12 PM ET
Per JMU, Sam Scruggs just got hired in 2025 as a pitching coach right out
U2Hokie 06/05/26 06:55 AM ET
Look. You cannot say Scruggs is not a "real" pitching coach. Every . . .
MidloHokie 06/05/26 07:19 AM ET
no burr really - but I dont view Herzig as one to coach pitchers or a pitch
U2Hokie 06/05/26 08:15 AM ET
Well, how many non-P4 teams have three All-American pitchers in 8 years?
MidloHokie 06/05/26 05:38 PM ET
Look - Libby Bowman was the JMU pitching coach when they beat Oklahoma and
U2Hokie 06/05/26 10:07 PM ET
I never claimed she was a pitching coach, simply that she mentored . .
MidloHokie 06/05/26 10:39 PM ET
Got it - so guilt by association = mentor. Go back and read what I said -
U2Hokie 06/06/26 06:07 AM ET
Well there was Maddie Penta.
MidloHokie 06/06/26 07:38 AM ET
Denny T says I cant argue with that! **
U2Hokie 06/04/26 08:19 AM ET
She has recently been clutch in big games
VTChip 06/03/26 09:40 PM ET
She does seem to lock in in the clutch
hokiepro 06/03/26 09:51 PM ET