I somewhat agree about bringing up Grein. Water
under the bridge. But, one thing people do on these message boards (all the time) is assess our coaching staffs. And I think that is the point of HH2000 comment.
You said "Presumably she is going to be better purely from being a year older."
Per the stats presented, neither Lemley OR Mazz got better this year. So, your presumption isn't supported. You can't assume that about Mazz for next year. She seems to have a lot of upside. Our pitchers were very good. I am not criticizing them. The only thing we do know is that Grein did get better in a different situation and our pitchers didn't here. In watching the Oregon games in the tournament, the commentators mentioned that LG is an emotional player. That kind of player does not fit well here. Keely Rochard is a perfect example. If you watched her walk off the field after the end of an inning, you had no idea if she just struck out the side or gave up 6 runs. She and Pete (and the pitching coach) were a great fit and she thrived here. It is true that we don't know if LG would have developed here like she did there. That was for her to figure out. And she did.
LG had to know that she would not be the top ace of the staff until Lemley graduated. So, that could not have been her expectation. She is OK with being co-ace at Oregon. Maybe not a 3rd ace which she was last year and would have been this year at VT. Maybe she believed she needed more innings to thrive. Also remember, we had a different pitching coach when she came here. Maybe Josh and LG weren't a good fit.
Next year, our pitching staff will be 100% Josh's group. Mazz will have to get better to help replace Lemley. We'll see how that goes.
** Edited by nkhooch at 5/21/2025, 5:11:46 AM
Thread Replies (29)
Lyndsey Grein Quote to D1Softball
-- hokiehigh2000
May 20, 2025 at 05:47 PM ET
hokiehigh2000
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05/20/25 05:47 PM ET
Sometimes a new voice and location is necessary for people to achieve.....
-- Jackie VT
May 21, 2025 at 11:47 AM ET
Jackie VT
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05/21/25 11:47 AM ET
Don't take it as even being close to an indictment on our coaching staff.
-- laphroaig
May 22, 2025 at 04:17 AM ET
laphroaig
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05/22/25 04:17 AM ET
I didn't take it as such. Just a comment for those who might.**
-- Jackie VT
May 22, 2025 at 10:55 AM ET
Jackie VT
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05/22/25 10:55 AM ET
If she stays, Mazzarone does not get the starts
-- VAHokie89
May 20, 2025 at 06:46 PM ET
VAHokie89
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05/20/25 06:46 PM ET
I somewhat agree about bringing up Grein. Water
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-- nkhooch
May 21, 2025 at 01:11 AM ET
nkhooch
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05/21/25 01:11 AM ET
I don’t think ANY transfer any longer should be any commentary on coaching
-- hokiepro
May 21, 2025 at 12:58 PM ET
hokiepro
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05/21/25 12:58 PM ET
Did lemley het better from year 2 to 3
-- VAHokie89
May 21, 2025 at 06:51 AM ET
VAHokie89
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05/21/25 06:51 AM ET
All the comments made in judging improvements are referencing
-- nkhooch
May 21, 2025 at 02:14 PM ET
nkhooch
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05/21/25 02:14 PM ET
Actually Emma had a pretty bad season in year two die to the Crow hopping
-- Hokie-2x
May 21, 2025 at 07:49 AM ET
Hokie-2x
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05/21/25 07:49 AM ET
That may be the post of the month
-- VTChip
May 20, 2025 at 07:00 PM ET
VTChip
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05/20/25 07:00 PM ET
Great post!! The 1st sentence in your 2nd paragraph is spot on!! Just
-- ancient alien 2018
May 20, 2025 at 06:56 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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05/20/25 06:56 PM ET
Slightly missing the point...
-- hokiehigh2000
May 20, 2025 at 07:00 PM ET
hokiehigh2000
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05/20/25 07:00 PM ET
Who cares? She's gone, not coming back and I hope she no hits the cult!!**
-- ancient alien 2018
May 20, 2025 at 11:22 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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05/20/25 11:22 PM ET
This discussion is not about the players specifically. it is about the
-- nkhooch
May 21, 2025 at 02:17 PM ET
nkhooch
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05/21/25 02:17 PM ET
One thing about this year’s pitchers…they faced a ton of top offenses
-- hokiepro
May 20, 2025 at 08:29 PM ET
hokiepro
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05/20/25 08:29 PM ET
Yes but not near enough.**
-- FriendofCoal
May 20, 2025 at 07:15 PM ET
FriendofCoal
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05/20/25 07:15 PM ET
I was sad to see her go, and she had a great season but the numbers are
-- 133976Hokie
May 20, 2025 at 06:12 PM ET
133976Hokie
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05/20/25 06:12 PM ET
Like any other player that leaves Blacksburg, I have no reason to
-- Blueboy
May 20, 2025 at 06:38 PM ET
Blueboy
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05/20/25 06:38 PM ET
Wish them well and shut the door behind them. **
-- TomTurkey
May 20, 2025 at 09:58 PM ET
TomTurkey
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05/20/25 09:58 PM ET
I hope Oregon wins both games by 50 runs!!**
-- ancient alien 2018
May 20, 2025 at 06:58 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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05/20/25 06:58 PM ET
No hate on Grein because I really wish she was still a Hokie but
-- Hokie_Forester
May 20, 2025 at 06:03 PM ET
Hokie_Forester
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05/20/25 06:03 PM ET
Definitely agree. To her credit she had some great games vs FSU & UCLA
-- hokiepro
May 21, 2025 at 05:35 PM ET
hokiepro
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05/21/25 05:35 PM ET
Here's the quote you're looking for
-- VTChip
May 20, 2025 at 06:00 PM ET
VTChip
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05/20/25 06:00 PM ET
If we didn’t lose some of the best players in every sport each year it
-- VTMedic513
May 20, 2025 at 10:24 PM ET
VTMedic513
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05/20/25 10:24 PM ET
What “best players” every year? When have we ever lost our best players?
-- vatechcowpatty
May 21, 2025 at 09:44 AM ET
vatechcowpatty
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05/21/25 09:44 AM ET
Losing certain players isn't stopping the team from being elite
-- VAHokie89
May 21, 2025 at 12:25 AM ET
VAHokie89
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05/21/25 12:25 AM ET
One player transferred?
-- tallahasseehokie
May 20, 2025 at 11:08 PM ET
tallahasseehokie
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05/20/25 11:08 PM ET
Whatever she went thru here, physically, mentally, emotionally,
-- laphroaig
May 20, 2025 at 07:06 PM ET
laphroaig
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05/20/25 07:06 PM ET