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VAHokie89
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If she stays, Mazzarone does not get the starts

Presumably, Grein is going to be better purely from being a year older. It really serves no purpose to bring up Grein other than to look for trouble. There can be discussions about the staff, but there is no way to know how she would do here this year, with this staff, with this offense, with this schedule. Comparing her numbers and saying her development is better elsewhere can't be proven. Odds are she has a relatively great year here, but odds are, she does not get 25 starts here. So "relatively great" does not translate into anything close to a 28-2 record. This year, we played 56 games: Emma had 24 starts Mazzarone had 18 starts Kleiman had 11 starts Grizzard had 3 starts If Grein stays, Kleiman does not come, which is fine in the scheme of things. Say that Grein gets Kleiman's 11 starts and likely Grizzard's 3. That is 14 starts. Is Mazzarone going to lose starts? Will Lemley lose starts in her senior year? To actually take advantage of a developed Grein, she would cut Mazzarone's starts nearly in half? We would have potentially lost Mazzarone to transfer if she came into 2025 looking at getting 7-9 starts. At Oregon, she was the co-ace of the staff. With more responsibility, she was likely going to mature, develop mentally, etc. She could have been the co-ace here and maybe had similar levels of responsibility but Lemley would have been ace no. 1. At what price? Maybe there would have been willingness among the fans to lose Mazzarone and likely have 1-2 of the freshmen be the 3rd pitcher. I have no idea whatever other issues existed. The larger point is would fans want to lose as much as or more than we gain? ** Edited by VAHokie89 at 5/20/2025, 8:49:18 PM ** Edited by VAHokie89 at 5/20/2025, 8:52:15 PM ** Edited by VAHokie89 at 5/20/2025, 9:00:19 PM ** Edited by VAHokie89 at 5/21/2025, 12:21:37 AM
Posted: 05/20/2025 at 06:46 PM ET
(In response to this post by hokiehigh2000)

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Lyndsey Grein Quote to D1Softball
hokiehigh2000 05/20/25 05:47 PM ET
Sometimes a new voice and location is necessary for people to achieve.....
Jackie VT 05/21/25 11:47 AM ET
Don't take it as even being close to an indictment on our coaching staff.
laphroaig 05/22/25 04:17 AM ET
I didn't take it as such. Just a comment for those who might.**
Jackie VT 05/22/25 10:55 AM ET
If she stays, Mazzarone does not get the starts
VAHokie89 05/20/25 06:46 PM ET
I somewhat agree about bringing up Grein. Water
nkhooch 05/21/25 01:11 AM ET
I don’t think ANY transfer any longer should be any commentary on coaching
hokiepro 05/21/25 12:58 PM ET
Did lemley het better from year 2 to 3
VAHokie89 05/21/25 06:51 AM ET
All the comments made in judging improvements are referencing
nkhooch 05/21/25 02:14 PM ET
Actually Emma had a pretty bad season in year two die to the Crow hopping
Hokie-2x 05/21/25 07:49 AM ET
Thank you.**
B Hokie 05/20/25 07:46 PM ET
That may be the post of the month
VTChip 05/20/25 07:00 PM ET
Great post!! The 1st sentence in your 2nd paragraph is spot on!! Just
ancient alien 2018 05/20/25 06:56 PM ET
Slightly missing the point...
hokiehigh2000 05/20/25 07:00 PM ET
Who cares? She's gone, not coming back and I hope she no hits the cult!!**
ancient alien 2018 05/20/25 11:22 PM ET
This discussion is not about the players specifically. it is about the
nkhooch 05/21/25 02:17 PM ET
One thing about this year’s pitchers…they faced a ton of top offenses
hokiepro 05/20/25 08:29 PM ET
Yes but not near enough.**
FriendofCoal 05/20/25 07:15 PM ET
I was sad to see her go, and she had a great season but the numbers are
133976Hokie 05/20/25 06:12 PM ET
Like any other player that leaves Blacksburg, I have no reason to
Blueboy 05/20/25 06:38 PM ET
Wish them well and shut the door behind them. **
TomTurkey 05/20/25 09:58 PM ET
I hope Oregon wins both games by 50 runs!!**
ancient alien 2018 05/20/25 06:58 PM ET
No hate on Grein because I really wish she was still a Hokie but
Hokie_Forester 05/20/25 06:03 PM ET
Definitely agree. To her credit she had some great games vs FSU & UCLA
hokiepro 05/21/25 05:35 PM ET
Here's the quote you're looking for
VTChip 05/20/25 06:00 PM ET
If we didn’t lose some of the best players in every sport each year it
VTMedic513 05/20/25 10:24 PM ET
What “best players” every year? When have we ever lost our best players?
vatechcowpatty 05/21/25 09:44 AM ET
Losing certain players isn't stopping the team from being elite
VAHokie89 05/21/25 12:25 AM ET
One player transferred?
tallahasseehokie 05/20/25 11:08 PM ET
Whatever she went thru here, physically, mentally, emotionally,
laphroaig 05/20/25 07:06 PM ET