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If she stays, Mazzarone does not get the starts
Presumably, Grein is going to be better purely from being a year older.
It really serves no purpose to bring up Grein other than to look for trouble. There can be discussions about the staff, but there is no way to know how she would do here this year, with this staff, with this offense, with this schedule. Comparing her numbers and saying her development is better elsewhere can't be proven.
Odds are she has a relatively great year here, but odds are, she does not get 25 starts here. So "relatively great" does not translate into anything close to a 28-2 record.
This year, we played 56 games:
Emma had 24 starts
Mazzarone had 18 starts
Kleiman had 11 starts
Grizzard had 3 starts
If Grein stays, Kleiman does not come, which is fine in the scheme of things. Say that Grein gets Kleiman's 11 starts and likely Grizzard's 3. That is 14 starts. Is Mazzarone going to lose starts? Will Lemley lose starts in her senior year? To actually take advantage of a developed Grein, she would cut Mazzarone's starts nearly in half? We would have potentially lost Mazzarone to transfer if she came into 2025 looking at getting 7-9 starts.
At Oregon, she was the co-ace of the staff. With more responsibility, she was likely going to mature, develop mentally, etc. She could have been the co-ace here and maybe had similar levels of responsibility but Lemley would have been ace no. 1. At what price? Maybe there would have been willingness among the fans to lose Mazzarone and likely have 1-2 of the freshmen be the 3rd pitcher. I have no idea whatever other issues existed. The larger point is would fans want to lose as much as or more than we gain?
** Edited by VAHokie89 at 5/20/2025, 8:49:18 PM
** Edited by VAHokie89 at 5/20/2025, 8:52:15 PM
** Edited by VAHokie89 at 5/20/2025, 9:00:19 PM
** Edited by VAHokie89 at 5/21/2025, 12:21:37 AM
Thread Replies (29)
Lyndsey Grein Quote to D1Softball
-- hokiehigh2000
May 20, 2025 at 05:47 PM ET
hokiehigh2000
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05/20/25 05:47 PM ET
Sometimes a new voice and location is necessary for people to achieve.....
-- Jackie VT
May 21, 2025 at 11:47 AM ET
Jackie VT
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05/21/25 11:47 AM ET
Don't take it as even being close to an indictment on our coaching staff.
-- laphroaig
May 22, 2025 at 04:17 AM ET
laphroaig
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05/22/25 04:17 AM ET
I didn't take it as such. Just a comment for those who might.**
-- Jackie VT
May 22, 2025 at 10:55 AM ET
Jackie VT
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05/22/25 10:55 AM ET
If she stays, Mazzarone does not get the starts
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-- VAHokie89
May 20, 2025 at 06:46 PM ET
VAHokie89
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05/20/25 06:46 PM ET
I somewhat agree about bringing up Grein. Water
-- nkhooch
May 21, 2025 at 01:11 AM ET
nkhooch
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05/21/25 01:11 AM ET
I don’t think ANY transfer any longer should be any commentary on coaching
-- hokiepro
May 21, 2025 at 12:58 PM ET
hokiepro
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05/21/25 12:58 PM ET
Did lemley het better from year 2 to 3
-- VAHokie89
May 21, 2025 at 06:51 AM ET
VAHokie89
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05/21/25 06:51 AM ET
All the comments made in judging improvements are referencing
-- nkhooch
May 21, 2025 at 02:14 PM ET
nkhooch
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05/21/25 02:14 PM ET
Actually Emma had a pretty bad season in year two die to the Crow hopping
-- Hokie-2x
May 21, 2025 at 07:49 AM ET
Hokie-2x
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05/21/25 07:49 AM ET
That may be the post of the month
-- VTChip
May 20, 2025 at 07:00 PM ET
VTChip
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05/20/25 07:00 PM ET
Great post!! The 1st sentence in your 2nd paragraph is spot on!! Just
-- ancient alien 2018
May 20, 2025 at 06:56 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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05/20/25 06:56 PM ET
Slightly missing the point...
-- hokiehigh2000
May 20, 2025 at 07:00 PM ET
hokiehigh2000
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05/20/25 07:00 PM ET
Who cares? She's gone, not coming back and I hope she no hits the cult!!**
-- ancient alien 2018
May 20, 2025 at 11:22 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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05/20/25 11:22 PM ET
This discussion is not about the players specifically. it is about the
-- nkhooch
May 21, 2025 at 02:17 PM ET
nkhooch
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05/21/25 02:17 PM ET
One thing about this year’s pitchers…they faced a ton of top offenses
-- hokiepro
May 20, 2025 at 08:29 PM ET
hokiepro
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05/20/25 08:29 PM ET
Yes but not near enough.**
-- FriendofCoal
May 20, 2025 at 07:15 PM ET
FriendofCoal
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05/20/25 07:15 PM ET
I was sad to see her go, and she had a great season but the numbers are
-- 133976Hokie
May 20, 2025 at 06:12 PM ET
133976Hokie
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05/20/25 06:12 PM ET
Like any other player that leaves Blacksburg, I have no reason to
-- Blueboy
May 20, 2025 at 06:38 PM ET
Blueboy
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05/20/25 06:38 PM ET
Wish them well and shut the door behind them. **
-- TomTurkey
May 20, 2025 at 09:58 PM ET
TomTurkey
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05/20/25 09:58 PM ET
I hope Oregon wins both games by 50 runs!!**
-- ancient alien 2018
May 20, 2025 at 06:58 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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05/20/25 06:58 PM ET
No hate on Grein because I really wish she was still a Hokie but
-- Hokie_Forester
May 20, 2025 at 06:03 PM ET
Hokie_Forester
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05/20/25 06:03 PM ET
Definitely agree. To her credit she had some great games vs FSU & UCLA
-- hokiepro
May 21, 2025 at 05:35 PM ET
hokiepro
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05/21/25 05:35 PM ET
Here's the quote you're looking for
-- VTChip
May 20, 2025 at 06:00 PM ET
VTChip
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05/20/25 06:00 PM ET
If we didn’t lose some of the best players in every sport each year it
-- VTMedic513
May 20, 2025 at 10:24 PM ET
VTMedic513
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05/20/25 10:24 PM ET
What “best players” every year? When have we ever lost our best players?
-- vatechcowpatty
May 21, 2025 at 09:44 AM ET
vatechcowpatty
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05/21/25 09:44 AM ET
Losing certain players isn't stopping the team from being elite
-- VAHokie89
May 21, 2025 at 12:25 AM ET
VAHokie89
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05/21/25 12:25 AM ET
One player transferred?
-- tallahasseehokie
May 20, 2025 at 11:08 PM ET
tallahasseehokie
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05/20/25 11:08 PM ET
Whatever she went thru here, physically, mentally, emotionally,
-- laphroaig
May 20, 2025 at 07:06 PM ET
laphroaig
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05/20/25 07:06 PM ET