As a metric person, I would probably just say the RPI has shortcomings
and as opposed to calling it a joke (not a statistical term :-)). Massey is a good one and I am sure yours is too. As a statistician, you know that there is no perfect metric. Each metric has to decide what to include and how much to weight it. There is some subjectivity there. No way around it. You also know that there is a margin of error around any result. What's lousy is that there is a precise cutoff at 16. And our team keeps hovering around that.
From what I have seen here, it may not have been the metrics/formulas that got us. People listed categories - wins against top 50, top 10, etc. as other things that were considered. The weighting of those is also subjective. The strength of the SEC conference clearly helps there and hard for us to compete with that in a slate of ACC opponents. That's likely the place where the SEC gets an advantage over every other conference. But, it's not that it's all unearned. They had the best OOC W/L pct of any conference.
Pete said that he believed our schedule incorporated a number of strong OOC opponents. And that some of them did not turn out to be as strong as we hoped.
But, please keep posting. There's always room for more data-driven commentary.
Thread Replies (17)
Professional statistician and occasional poster here.
-- HokieEngineer22
May 11, 2026 at 11:09 AM ET
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05/11/26 11:09 AM ET
As a metric person, I would probably just say the RPI has shortcomings
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-- nkhooch
May 11, 2026 at 03:28 PM ET
nkhooch
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05/11/26 03:28 PM ET
The statistical term re: the RPI would be “extremely underparameterized”
-- HokieEngineer22
May 11, 2026 at 04:15 PM ET
HokieEngineer22
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05/11/26 04:15 PM ET
Come on now. The win/loss record "sounds" useful?
-- nkhooch
May 11, 2026 at 04:57 PM ET
nkhooch
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05/11/26 04:57 PM ET
That’s not quite how building robust rating systems work.
-- HokieEngineer22
May 11, 2026 at 05:56 PM ET
HokieEngineer22
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05/11/26 05:56 PM ET
Best post I have seen on the subject. There is absolutely no logical
-- Hokie_Forester
May 11, 2026 at 02:04 PM ET
Hokie_Forester
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05/11/26 02:04 PM ET
Well, how wast Angela Tincher not on the USA Olympic team, yet…
-- TomA
May 11, 2026 at 12:37 PM ET
TomA
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05/11/26 12:37 PM ET
Can you name the three pitchers that were selected?
-- MidloHokie
May 11, 2026 at 03:46 PM ET
MidloHokie
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05/11/26 03:46 PM ET
As Ronald Coase said “If You Torture the Data Long Enough, It Will Confess”
-- Va AandM
May 11, 2026 at 12:32 PM ET
Va AandM
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05/11/26 12:32 PM ET
Yep, pick the teams you want and then select and weight the stats to
-- BEST2VT
May 11, 2026 at 12:58 PM ET
BEST2VT
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05/11/26 12:58 PM ET
Ah, Finagle’s Rule: draw curve then plot your points. Works every time **
-- Va AandM
May 11, 2026 at 01:06 PM ET
Va AandM
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05/11/26 01:06 PM ET
It feels the same every time this happens. The committees
-- baumerj
May 11, 2026 at 11:35 AM ET
baumerj
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05/11/26 11:35 AM ET
Only comeback is to win. Go Hokies. **
-- skautdog
May 11, 2026 at 11:18 AM ET
skautdog
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05/11/26 11:18 AM ET
You're "RPI is a joke" line, although probably true, was the death ....
-- hokietony
May 11, 2026 at 11:14 AM ET
hokietony
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05/11/26 11:14 AM ET
Then they have contradicted themselves because they didn’t follow RPI…
-- HokieEngineer22
May 11, 2026 at 11:20 AM ET
HokieEngineer22
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05/11/26 11:20 AM ET
Committee contradicts self. Story at 11! 😉**
-- HokieNL
May 11, 2026 at 04:27 PM ET
HokieNL
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05/11/26 04:27 PM ET
In general they did, only 1 non-top 16 RPI team is a host.**
-- hokietony
May 11, 2026 at 11:22 AM ET
hokietony
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05/11/26 11:22 AM ET
That exception is sort of what I am trying to point out.
-- HokieEngineer22
May 11, 2026 at 11:32 AM ET
HokieEngineer22
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05/11/26 11:32 AM ET