AI says that the ACC distributes
distributions around Mid May every year. With the new uneven distribution system, does anyone know where VT will land?
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4mo
Atlantic Coast living in Boston and Charlotte. Lane is on my bucket list, and I guess it's just in my blood.
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4mo
We have one of the top brands in valude in the acc, top 4 (yes even with mediocre seasons)
We upped our budget to currently standing at 225 million dollar budget top 3 in the acc.
We hired a national legacy football coach who is transforming the football operation, huge bump in recruiting.
Our intent to be a top 15 national brand (not just acc goal but national)
VT has alot of Friday national games. you can expect the MD game to be on the Big 10/Fox (Franklin returning to big 10), then the Clemson game will be a night game (If VT goes 7-0) into that game. Then SMU and Miami game. That generates the big TV ratings.
Period and VT intends to be in that enchelon every year.
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3mo
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4mo
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4mo
a terrible football team, to one playing for the Conference Championship, and beating a good SEC team in the bowl. Way too much at stake to wait 5 years, we need to do something similar to what UVA did this year with the amount of money being thrown at the football program, NIL and Portal. WADR the old paradigm of 5 years is just about dead.
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4mo
retires and a new person is in charge. Not just with football, but with the entire Athletic Department as a whole if we want to talk about generating the most money for VT.
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4mo
until Sands retires. I do hear that Franklin is pretty much 100% the boss in football, and even Whit can’t mess this one up. Pretty much like when Beams almost went to UNC, and Weaver stopped screwing things up. However, I hear Franklin has more say than that, thank goodness!!!
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4mo
for the long-term or is it a temporary one until VT properly hires a football GM/AD to manage things? It may have worked when Beamer was HC because things back then were "different." However, it may not work (read be as effective) now because the role has additional responsibilities.
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4mo
ACCN data is not reported.
Based on known data, VT should stay flat and keep our current money levels.
But the past 5/years have not been good for VT viewership so we are uncomfortably close to the line where teams start to lose money.
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4mo
a history of being very strong in football. Nebraska is STILL considered to be a blue blood, and they have done absolutely zero since joining the BIG. Hope that carries you guys.
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4mo
The key is the haves and have nots. Our goal is to be with the halfs.... the power 2
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4mo
standard established under Osborne if they had opted to remain in the Big XII? Or do you think Nebraska would have likely ended up with the same fate because Osborne took advantage of loopholes in the bylaws that were later closed for various reasons? I know the money is too good for Nebraska to leave the Big Ten now. However, from a competitive/championship standpoint I do wonder if Nebraska would be better served as a member of the Big XII. Likewise, would Jayhawk basketball be better served being a member of the Big Ten (or SEC) vs. a move like like leading Kansas to end up in the same boat as Nebraska is in now (the SS Purgatory?).
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4mo
in the states that surround it, except maybe Iowa. They lost that recruiting edge by joining the BIG IMO. Nebraska would have been better off in the B12 (if you set money aside).
KU basketball is fine where it is. They have recruited nationally for decades, and while the top players are migrating to the money, KU (and Duke for that matter), will do fine where they are.
As you migrate to the Plains States, and further West, there are no "regional" schools that are drivable like you have along the East Coast, so travel expenses have always been high for the athletic departments, and the non revs pretty much are on a plane for every game except one or two per school.
Nebraska may get a coach, and compete again. KU may as well, because Self will retire soon IMO because of health reasons. Both of those schools will be fine no matter which conference they are in, but as you guys know, coaching and recruiting continues to be a major factor, as it's not just the money.
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4mo
advantage of the rules and basically stockpiled walk-ons. I think the joke at one time was the reason Nebraska was so great is because they had 85 scholarship players and 200 walk-ons on the roster each year. Hence why the reason(s) Nebraska has faded away in football fascinates me. Particularly since the debate on the primary reason why Nebraska has lost its edge centers around whether the Big Ten took away their advantage vs. Nebraska was no longer allowed to stockpile its roster.
If the Big Ten is truly the main factor, then it leads to me the question about Kansas basketball. Particularly when you consider Kansas was basically a staple #1 or #2 seed in the NCAAT during the Big 8 and pre-P2 Big XII days. If college basketball is following a similar behavior as football where everything is shifting to a P2 world, then how likely will Kansas continue earning #1 or #2 seeds in future tournaments as a Big XII member even if Self's replacement is the same caliber as Roy? If the Committee starts to only give 2 of the 8 seeds to non-P2 schools, then Kansas' new reality is the best seed they could hope for most years is a #3 or #4 seed when you consider Kansas is competing against UConn, Duke, and UNC for those spots every year. I'm not sure how well that would sit with Kansas fans given the Jayhawks are considered a blueblood basketball program.
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4mo
have had a string of coaches post Osborne that couldn't put it together. That stadium continues to be sold out every game, and the Cornhusker faithful will not tolerate mediocre football. They could actually pull an Indiana this year.
KU hat the #1 NBA draft prospect on their team this year, and he ended up being a selfish one man show. Not like teams of the past. he was injured most of the season, limited his own playing time to be healthy for the draft, and when it came down to crunch time, he choked. KU will continue to get top players, but this transfer portal with the money involved will handcuff player development, coaching, and "teams" growing as a unit. Self, like Saban, may go out on top because the "rules" regarding players has changed so much, that it isn't fun for them anymore.
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4mo
and he has had football season tickets for decades. Even though I am an outsider, I think I have a somewhat good picture of their current situation because we always talk college football whenever they come back to my hometown to visit for the holidays. He was the first person to suggest that Nebraska may not be able to come close to recapturing the Osborne glory years again because of the changes to the roster limits. One of the reasons he didn't think the Big Ten was the issue is because he thought Nebraska football had more in common with Iowa, Wisky, and even Minn. than any of the Big 8 schools in terms of culture.
I had heard he is likely to be the #1 pick in this year's NBA Draft. Even though Self is coming back for 1 more year, I don't expect him to roam the sidelines for too many more years. Likewise, I do think Kansas will continue to sign top recruits even if they eventually leave for a P2 school. What will be interesting to watch for a school like Kansas, UConn, Duke, or even Villanova is how they react to getting a #3 or #4 seed in a year where a strong argument could be made they deserved at least a #2 seed over whatever P2 school that received it. Will that trigger an increase in public chatter regarding the school's interest to join a P2 conference in the near future?
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4mo
to get the bulk if the invites as they have "tougher SOS" because of the ranking system, and the biased polls. tell you what though, winning means everything. UConn this year is a perfect example. Got lucky, but they are in the final 4. Gotta be there to get lucky however.
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4mo
Heck they could even win the entire tournament because the only time the seed comes into question is when it is #8 or lower.
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4mo
This is specifically looking at OOC games and how the B12 fared against the other conferences. The results were impressively consistent.
** Edited by HokieAl at 3/31/2026, 11:01:56 PM
Link:
B12 deep dive
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4mo
the ACC teams for the last 5 years? I'm asking not for VT's fate, but to see how well the uneven distributions compare to actual results on the field. i know that "brand" is part of the equation, and VT should do well in that department, but I'm more interested in performance vs. the last 5 years. FSU should not do well in that metric, but will they get the most money because of their "brand"?
The B12, top to bottom, are all pretty close, so an uneven distribution would come down to performance on the field, as that is about the only metric that can differentiate the schools. Since we have no real "blue bloods", I'm very interested in the ACC model. It could be the model of the future, whether we all see it or not.
Will it be fair is the question.
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4mo
First I need to refresh my memory on the ACC distribution model to see what they shared about the setup. Then I can layer that info over the specific team data.
Should be easy enough over the next day or two.
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4mo
Two parts.
1. Annual success initiative that pays based on results for that year. Bowls, Playoffs, top 25 ranking, March Madness.
2. Media money distribution based on 5 year rolling average of tv viewership across football (75%) and basketball (25%). 40% of media money is guaranteed to be split among schools each year. 60% is now variable and based on the five year average.
Stanford and Cal won’t be eligible for extra media money until sometime around 2033 (estimated). SMU won’t get any until about 2036. ND only gets a share based on basketball.
** Edited by HokieAl at 4/1/2026, 12:20:14 PM
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