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HOO86 OP
Dec 08, 2025 at 05:05 PM ET
Rick Neuheisel has been reading your posts Stech
Says the Bowls will be moving to the Front End of College Football Season. I think if this happens we'll see more of them in northern places.
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HokieAl HokieAl
7mo
So bowls would just be more neutral site week 1 games?
If he really means week 0 type games that are separate from the season then it doesn't make sense. 1. Currently bowls are not part of the regular season. They are technically extra exhibition games. 2. The bowls used to work for interest because it gave people a reason to travel during cold winter weeks. People are not going to give up their summer vacations to travel to "bowl games" in August (unless they are just more neutral site games labeled as bowls). 3. bowls work for tv because lots of people are off from work and stuck at home during the holidays (and stuck inside due to cold in many places) and it gives them something to watch. They had far less competition. But August has vacations and school starting and lots of distractions.
Pylons Pylons
7mo
Making bowl games count as a season kickoff would definitely draw viewers
I love college football and have nothing better to do in December, yet I've been largely ignoring bowls in recent years. Week 0 Bowl Week would be far more compelling. As for travel, I have to think that's decreasing with no end in sight as the current setup becomes increasingly useless. Teams don't even want to travel for them anymore.
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Stech
7mo
P4 do neutral site games, and the G6 will do home and away games.
The P4 neutral site games would very close to number you have in bowl season. By the way, there will probably be nothing stopping a P4 IMHO from doing a home and away, or G6 to do a neutral site game. However, there are only so many neutral sites, so expect some home and away matchups would help with attendance in the G6.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
Why bother calling them "bowl games" if teams are going to do home and away
games? If they are going to do home and away games, then how likely will it end up becoming a home-home series? At least I would think most (maybe all) ADs of the "away" team would like the opportunity to play the "home" team in their stadium and benefit from all the revenue generated from that game. Plus, what is to prevent a team from end up playing 2 home games or away games in back-to-back seasons? I mean the whole idea of bowl games is the opportunity for 2 teams to play a game in a neutral site. Now you are talking about moving the bowl games to the beginning of the season AND playing some of those games in a team's stadium too. It seems like you have kind of defeated the whole purpose of the bowl game.
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Stech
7mo
Don’t have to call them that, I really don’t care what they call them, but
you only have so many neutral sites and I hope every school finds an exciting out of conference rivalry game. ** Edited by Stech at 12/8/2025, 8:37:46 PM
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
Teams may currently have no problem selling out their 70-80K seat stadiums
now while playing 3 or 4 home games against Directional Michigan School or Pick Your Favorite Sun Belt School. If they are a member of a conference that is perceived to be tough (or deep), then may have cracked the formula on giving themselves the best chance to make the FBS Playoffs most years. If no one writing the checks is calling for change to the status quo, then why rock the boat? If fans want their school to treat football like a big business, then just maybe the status quo for OOC scheduling is the best business decision the school can make. Otherwise, we would see more P4s scheduling 2-4 OOC games against P4 schools every year. Instead, there have only been a handful of times since 1990 when a P4 has scheduled all their OOC games against P4 opponents. Even opting for 3-of-4 (if playing 8 conference games) or 2-of-3 (if playing 9 conferences games) may not be that high of percentage during that time. If change is going to occur, then all P4 conferences will need some sort of incentive to change their requirements from 1 P4 OOC game each year to 2 P4 OOC games each year. That change may have become tougher to implement since the conferences are switching to 9 conference games and the scheduling issue that comes up in years when teams are scheduled to play 5 away conference games.
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HOO86 OP
7mo
There are 40 Bowl Games
I'm not sure how they do this, but it's being suggested.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
If you look at the bowl schedule now (dates and times), then there are a
lot more slots available because more people are off from work or school during the holiday. If we start to see a sudden increase in Week 0/Week 1 neutral site games (call them bowl games if you must), then I will be curious to see how many time slots will be available to them. If you have multiple neutral site games competing against other in the same time slots, then what are the TV ratings for each of those games and how did those ratings compare to when the "bowl game" was played in December in its normal date and time? ESPN currently owns the vast majority of the bowl games now. If it has a similar ownership of the neutral site games, then will it want to have its property competing against its or have a similar TV schedule as the current bowl schedule? ** Edited by VTHokie2000 at 12/8/2025, 7:55:06 PM
PadrosWindup PadrosWindup
7mo
You are SO CLOSE to the right answer
Bowl games are TV shows first and foremost. They are great TV inventory around Christmas-especially when there are teams with no rooting interest- specifically G5 teams. There is a game every day-maybe 2. Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday- all the typically non Football days. So there is a game always on, and it doesn't matter who is playing. What's better for avoiding the relatives than a TV football game with evenly matched MAC and Sunbelt teams, sloppily playing a game that goes down to the wire?? These are not rewards for successful seasons (unless 7 wins is the most wins you'd team has had in years) nor are they displays of football excellence. They are TV inventory filler for the holiday season. They are too valuable there to move anywhere else on the calendar. Enjoy them for what they are. Don't make them anymore than what they are. ** Edited by PadrosWindup at 12/8/2025, 7:55:27 PM
IB4TECH IB4TECH
7mo
Point number 4 was the best reason. Oh, how fb has given us refuge.
IB4TECH IB4TECH
7mo
I have no problem with that. It's an opportunity for a lot of schools to
get some good ooc competition from the gitgo. Plus a lot more fanfare to open the season. ** Edited by IB4TECH at 12/8/2025, 6:08:06 PM
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Stech
7mo
Bowl games are OOC can you imagine opening up with WVU or UT every year?
The off season talk would be mind blowing, fans can plan in advance for the trip, and you could have games in the North that people actually attend like @HOO86 mentioned.
IB4TECH IB4TECH
7mo
It's too brilliant. The powers will never agree to it. ; )
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ancient alien 2018
7mo
they might
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Stech
7mo
Haha!!!
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Stech
7mo
LOL I am good w/ Rick saying this, but he should have referenced me. 🤣🤣
My Attorney will be in touch with Rick. 🤣🤣