A few more hours but August 15th is about to come and go. Another year in
the future for the ACC as currently constructed. Decision by ESPN on the contract appears to be next major news as doubt mediation will get anywhere with FSU and ACC
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insofar as we're talking about FSU. There's no reasonable argument the ACC could make that FSU has not provided constant and ongoing notice of its intent to withdraw from the ACC. There's a year-old and counting lawsuit about it, and notice of withdrawal is plead in FSU's complaint.
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2hhoop3
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cashing the checks, paid the fees and are not playing conference schedules this coming year that complaint would seem to be an irrelevant, steaming pile of manure as a result of their own actions.
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If the case is decided in their favor, they are free to leave at that time. Let’s say the cases all are ruled upon (or they come to a settlement), they are trying to say they can leave the following year.
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I was going to make this post as a Topic Header in several hours. However 5:35 Central Time is probably sufficient to call the August 15 deadline as passed. I put an SI article Link of about three weeks ago that accurately predicted the time frame inclusive of August 15, 2024, as a dry run. I have been predicting that here for weeks.Josh Pate & TJ Pittinger and their sources are worthless on expansion. The same goes for Greg Frugaur and his long winded two hour ramblings quoting his inside sources. Take them as a grain of salt for the future about expansion.
Now the way I see the future on expansion. I have no idea where specific ACC schools may land in the future. I do think the SEC may have a leg up on the B1G on some of these southern schools just due to geography. The B1G would be a leg up with academics. Which is more advantageous? I think the geography as far as football goes, I give Texas & Oklahoma as recent examples.
The future of the ACC until 2036, depends on one thing. ESPN resigning that ACC TV Contract before June 30, 2027. It is that simple. Why doesn't my SI Link or any Mainstream Media outlet mention that very important impending 9 year advancement? That is because ESPN labeled that information in a court of law as a Trade Secret and further alleged FSU attorneys had committed felonies by releasing that information. No MSM outlet will now touch it. ESPN is just keeping the spotlight off themselves as long as possible.
However that June 30, 2027, deadline still exists and is ebbing closer with every passing year. I doubt August 15, 2025, brings any exit announcement by FSU & Clemson. However you can about bet the house that August 15, 2026, will bring those two exit announcements plus a lot more ACC exits. The ACC will play the 2026 football season fully intact just like the PAC did in 2023. The 2026 season will be the last for the ACC as it now stands.
I know this is not a popular post here. I would not enjoy making a post like this about the SEC. Greed is causing this like every war and most all the calamities that plague mankind. I will not post here again for a while. Maybe ESPN will resign. I will be glad to acknowledge that signing.
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upon terms that will in any way improve the ACC's current position.
Disney has the ACC administration exactly where they want them - scared and panicking. If you pay attention to what's going on, you'll come to the conclusion that Disney is actively trying to destroy the ACC as a football property. Yes, yes, I know, they're "invested" in the ACCN, yadda yadda yadda. BS. If they're "invested," then why do they refuse to book ACC voices on any of their opinion/preview/studio shows? Why do ESPN's company men (e.g. Kirk Herbstreit, Chris Fowler, etc.) actively and repeatedly denigrate the ACC product at every available opportunity? Why has ESPN excluded the ACC from primetime ABC OTA broadcasts? Why do they promote one property (the SEC) to the derision of the ACC? ("IT JUST MEANS MORE!") They are basically covering ACC football EXACTLY the same way they used to cover the late-era Big East conference - denigrate, tear down, or ignore.
It's pretty obvious what's going on at the Disney/ESPN offices, at least if you have eyes, ears, and the capacity for critical thinking. They are only minimally "invested" in the ACC, and only for another couple years. They are going to take the football brands they want, slot them elsewhere, then re-negotiate a much crappier deal for whatever is left of the ACC so they can get the basketball product.
** Edited by Baltimore_Hokie at 8/16/2024, 10:15:37 AM
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If you believe they are on a fast train to destroy the ACC, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona for sale CHEAP!!!
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And, those numbers are well over two years old. And, the guy writing the blog just admits he's making them up - he "estimates" how much money ESPN is netting based upon....Twitter posts he saw. Great research you've done here; you're a natural. I'm totally convinced.
Frankly, you can cite whatever blog post, Twitter post, or whatever else you want - it's clear to anyone who has eyes, ears, and a functioning brain that there is a major lack of promotional and marketing consideration for the ACC at ESPN, especially when one sees how they take the exact opposite approach for the SEC. Why is ESPN, at best, not promoting, and, at worst, denigrating its own product? Well, that's the million dollar question, isn't it?
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content As far as promoting the ACC, obviously a genius in cable television advertising like you knows that ESPN hasn't done the same job promoting both conferences equally. That's probably because the ACC product on the field blows!!. You promote the product that makes the most money.
I'll look forward to your future posts offering nothing of value to the topic being discussed.
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If it did, it would promote and market it accordingly, but it doesn't.
If you don't like my stuff, feel free to mute me anytime. It certainly won't hurt my feelings, Francis.
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In our system, how do you combat greed?
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According to the teachings of Christianity - Pride, Greed, Wrath, Envy, Lust, Gluttony & Sloth. I do think our system is overflowing with all of them.
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