Does the ESPN TV Contract with ESPN Expire on June 30, 2027?
I know the FSU Attorneys declaring that is pretty much already accepted as fact by all here. The Link below will pretty cements that TV Contract expiration in 2027.
I know Pittinger is beyond being just a little unpopular here. However this is an 8 minute video where Pittinger brings up what definitely looks like several potential weak spots in the ACC legal positions in all those court cases.
What Pittinger shows in two numbered points within a recent FSU filing added to their lawsuit against the ACC at the 2:16 - 3:00 mark on this video, solidifies that 2027 date as an absolute reality.
Pittinger also states that in 2021, Phillips without the approval of any ACC members, himself gave ESPN an extension of 4 years until 2025, to resign that ACC TV Contract. Pittinger also says the ACC may have acted legally improper by recently recruiting Stanford, Cal & SMU, under the assumption that the ACC had a TV Contract until 2036. I think those should be valid concerns for the ACC as these court cases progress. Maybe even some more lawsuits against the ACC from Stanford, Cal & SMU as this all play out.
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he is on “something” when doing them, but there are some explosive allegations in this video. Phillips’ letter to ESPN extending that decision deadline sounds like it could be the smoking gun that could nuke the GOR according to Pittinger. Allowing ESPN several more years to decide on the terms of an agreement worth billions of dollars seems like it would require approval from member schools, but that apparently didn’t happen. Also, it’s hard to believe that a commissioner who was only on the job for about 6 months could make a decision this impactful on his own without the conference’s executive committee being involved as alleged in FSU’s complaint. Pittinger indicated that Florida’s AG after suing the ACC will receive Phillips’ letter to ESPN dated August 10, 2021 this week and she plans on releasing it to the public.
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Verifying what Pittinger alleged in that video. Everything may be redacted into oblivion by the time it goes public. ESPN has only ever made one public appearance in court in all those lawsuits against the ACC. In that one court appearance ESPN made sure to throw around allegation of FSU attorneys committing felonies for mentioning details about the ACC TV Contract in a recent court filing.
I think ESPN saying felony literally froze anyone from publicly releasing details about that ACC TV Contract. ESPN has very deep pockets with Disney and a gang of top flight attorneys on retainer that are just itching to litigate.
I remember about 10 years ago. A Utility had cut several trees on my sister's property. They sent her a letter a few months later saying they intended to cut three more of her trees. She called the utility and just got some condescending lip service from a utility company lackey. She called me and asked if I would call an attorney for her.
I called one. I described the exact situation about my sister's trees to that attorney. The Attorney said he would be glad to take the utility to court. Said we might win. However the attorney said the utility would never accept any court loss. He said the utility would appeal & litigate to Supreme Court levels. The attorney said many court appearances and every time he went to court would cost $10,000.00. The attorney asked me if I had that kind of money? I said no.
ESPN would be a lot tougher nut to crack in court than that utility. ESPN struck fear in the litigating world of those courts when ESPN threw around felony allegations.
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I gave up on Pittinger months ago because he has one by line, ACC implosion eminent.
Seems to me only the ACC office and ESPN really know what this "look in" is. And for sure Pittinger has never considered that that the GOR gives the conference powers they would not have otherwise. So whether Swofford/Philips did something illegal or not will depend on what the final judge says. My guess is that is a nothing burger hope by FSU.
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contract expires on 6/30/2027? If so, has it been presented/published? If not, then why not?
It’s also been stated that ESPN has a unilateral right to end the contract on that date and must notify the conference in February 2025 about its intentions. So, has any signed official document been presented stating such? If not, then why not?
And other than Flunkey State, what other ACC schools have publicly stated such? Answer - none.
Until the official signed documents are presented for public review, it’s all speculation.
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board pretty much null and void.
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submitted to the courts as material facts back in December so they aren’t speculations. It’s my understanding that FSU and Clemson‘s attorneys had access to the “official written and signed” ACC media rights agreement but had to travel to the ACC offices to view the documents while under surveillance. It was through FSU original complaint that most people including the media became aware that the ACC media rights agreement could end in 2027 instead of 2036 based on a unilateral decision by ESPN.
I seriously doubt that FSU attorneys would submit incorrect material facts such as dates to the courts that could be easily verified. The ACC media rights agreement hasn’t been released to the public because it arguably contains trade secrets. That may be about to change :
“The documents at the center of the Florida State University’s ACC legal battle may soon be available to the public, according to Florida attorney general Ashley Moody. She said her office and the attorneys for the ACC have reached in agreement to provide the ACC’s media agreements with ESPN spanning more than a decade. Last week, a Leon County judge ordered the ACC to share those documents with FSU’s attorneys, but did not require them to be publicaly released. Moody’s office expects to have the documents by August 1.”
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Regardless, until the documents are made public, it’s all speculation.
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I wouldn't put that past him. However if Pittinger is actually quoting from a document as he claims that was filed by FSU Attorneys in a court of law. Are those FSU Attorneys going to file false claims in court that could possibly get them reprimanded? Attorneys don't operate like that. I have them in my family.
As far as anyone else commenting on any of this. I guess you mean other ACC schools and trusted sports media outlets. Those FSU Attorneys were accused of committing a felony by ESPN in North Carolina court for publicly divulging what they called trade secrets in that TV Contract with the ACC. Is anybody else going to commit felonies as ESPN sees things? As far as other school around the country backing FSU & Clemson against ACC. It is not happening in the ACC and nobody else really cares. The other ACC schools mostly have just bashed FSU. Not going to back them on nothing.
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None of the other ACC schools have said anything about the agreement dates.
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documents, or the authenticity of those documents, need to be put out there.
It seems to me that if the February date is a hard date, then the ACC is in trouble. If they had a contract in hand, it would be announced. If it is a good contract, they would announce it from the rooftops. The fact that they are still "negotiating" is very concerning.
Does anyone know why Phillips extended what we thought was a "look in" in '21? Why would he do that?
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I have no direct knowledge but have heard a logical explanation. The rollout of the ACCN was slow so it was not really a producing asset when the look in was initially due. IMHO both ESPN and the ACCN knew it was getting up to speed so they extended the look in partially because of COVID and partially to give the ACCN more time to reach certain benchmarks. Could be that this whole look in thing is about the ACCN and not the media contract, which may already be locked in until 2036
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