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HokieAl
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To me the math will never work

A quick example. Let's say last year every ACC member received $40 million If we implement performance based payouts, hypothetically the top teams get $55 million for this coming year. This would be a 38% increase for them with the extra $15 million. On the other side, hypothetically the bottom teams only get $30 million this year. This would be a 25% decrease for them with the loss of $10 million. In this scenario, the top ACC teams would be getting 83% more than the bottom ACC teams this year ($55m vs $30m). And there is no guarantee that the ACC money will change at all before 2036. The ESPN look in periods only mean that both sides will talk, it doesn't guarantee any more money. Now layer in that the SEC is already paying out $50 million per school, and that will be increasing over the coming years. And the BIG is already paying out $59 million per school, and that will also be increasing over time. So worst case for ACC is the money stay the same for the next 13 years. And the best a school like FSU could do would be to hit the performance milestones every single year to get the max of (hypothetical) $55 million per year. So the very best any ACC team could do would be to maybe keep pace with the SEC for a few years and it would always be behind the BIG (with the gap increasing as both conferences get more money before 2036). And even that is not guaranteed for the ACC teams because they have to perform every single year to get that max amount. The P2 guaranteed money will always be superior unless the ACC goes crazy unbalanced and gives the top performers an excessive amount of revenue. But always remember, ESPN has the power because they have the ACC locked down for the next 13 years and they don't have to pay another dime if they don't want to. ** Edited by HokieAl at 8/13/2023, 2:50:35 PM
Posted: 08/13/2023 at 02:49 PM ET
(In response to this post by gman86)

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Does the ACC just need to have it's bell cows reach their potential?
gman86 08/13/23 11:31 AM ET
Yes, about 5 years ago**
WestyHokie 08/14/23 06:43 AM ET
To me the math will never work
HokieAl 08/13/23 02:49 PM ET
Why assume no annual increases?**
SpeakToDamien 08/13/23 04:32 PM ET
I’m assuming worst case since espn is belt tightening
HokieAl 08/13/23 07:22 PM ET
Hate is missing
RonMexicoHokie 08/13/23 01:52 PM ET
2 ACC problems IMO.
Maroon Baboon 08/13/23 01:23 PM ET
It’s a private school problem
Hanover Hokie 08/13/23 11:53 PM ET
Lack of spirited competition is due to the schools. Wannabe private
Hokie 04 08/13/23 01:49 PM ET
The ACC's problem is its lack of large state universities
Old Line Hokie 08/13/23 01:40 PM ET
Having 4 schools from the TarHeel state is a big negative as well.**
TabbHokie 08/13/23 03:46 PM ET
That’s absolutely true. You’re talking about a conference where Wake is one
Maroon Effect 08/13/23 01:33 PM ET
It's not so much that Wake is near the top. It's that Wake is near the top
Maroon Baboon 08/13/23 01:45 PM ET
Seem to remember Tulane winning Cotton Bowl over USC.
HOO86 08/13/23 07:54 PM ET
True about ACC, but the ACC still has more football nat'l. championships...
Old Line Hokie 08/13/23 05:32 PM ET
It's been the same way with Ohio State and with Alabama
HOO86 08/13/23 01:57 PM ET
It's been worse in those conferences....
HokiePail 08/13/23 02:59 PM ET
That. And don't get me started on the in-conference officiating favors that
Maroon Baboon 08/13/23 02:09 PM ET
Yes I remember that. A big reason I've hated polls with a passion. **
HOO86 08/13/23 02:12 PM ET
Yes. Don’t sell the ranch when you can just do better and Win-Baby.**
Hardcore_Hokie 08/13/23 12:06 PM ET
Yes. And if the bell cows come home, that helps eliminate schools like
IB4TECH 08/13/23 11:50 AM ET