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It takes 11. ACC has contract look-ins w/ ESPN in
2026 and 2031. And ACC can probably renegotiate with certain additions. What the conference does, if anything, with the look-ins and potential adds will determine it's post 2036 future, imo.
Right now it is hard to visualize survival beyond 2036 because of the diversity in sports marketability of the members. I mean we had a member last year and another this year that aren't play ANY OOC P5 football games. NONE! But they are getting the same base income. That's probably okay when the difference in conference income from the highest (B1G) to lowest (PAC) is maybe 10%. But in today's landscape, it is just nuts.
I think ESPN will ultimately determine the future of the ACC. The ACC is a money maker for them. And as it stands, ACC schools will make maybe 25-30% more than the Big 12 teams (under their new contract). There is no reason for an ACC school to bolt that direction right now.
But ESPN's willingness, or lack thereof, to find a sweet spot between Big 12 and SEC will make or break the ACC.
I will say it until I'm blue in the face, the ACC should only split in-conference revenues and let the teams keep own their OOC income. That would be a good faith move and fair to all.
Thread Replies (35)
What if the ACC top dogs all want out
-- knapnhokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 04:18 PM ET
knapnhokie
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08/04/23 04:18 PM ET
I keep trying to figure out who exactly are the ACC's top dogs
-- UVa 2002
Aug 04, 2023 at 05:57 PM ET
UVa 2002
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08/04/23 05:57 PM ET
Miami is a national brand, doesn't matter how much they suck on the field
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 06:11 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/04/23 06:11 PM ET
Unfortunately they don't buy tickets to Miami's away games or their bowls.
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 04, 2023 at 10:15 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/04/23 10:15 PM ET
attendance no longer a metric. the future is streaming subscriptions**
-- realityhokie
Aug 05, 2023 at 09:00 AM ET
realityhokie
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08/05/23 09:00 AM ET
This is the best rivalry post I have ever seen. Well done.**
-- Hokie`s Advocate
Aug 04, 2023 at 09:49 PM ET
Hokie`s Advocate
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08/04/23 09:49 PM ET
As I was writing it, I thought, should I embellish....
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 09:59 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/04/23 09:59 PM ET
VT football despite recent records is a national brand.
-- knapnhokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 07:11 PM ET
knapnhokie
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08/04/23 07:11 PM ET
We were, but I think that is fading fast if not gone
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 07:37 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/04/23 07:37 PM ET
Agree. Based on recent performance. Clemson is big dog. FSU is a poodle
-- VTBoar
Aug 04, 2023 at 06:05 PM ET
VTBoar
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08/04/23 06:05 PM ET
FSU and Miami are more valuable media properties than anyone...
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 06:15 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/04/23 06:15 PM ET
It takes 11. ACC has contract look-ins w/ ESPN in
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-- daveinop
Aug 04, 2023 at 05:03 PM ET
daveinop
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08/04/23 05:03 PM ET
Right About ESPN Deciding ACC Fate
-- WarHog38
Aug 04, 2023 at 06:32 PM ET
WarHog38
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08/04/23 06:32 PM ET
Great post. Rare to see logic here. **
-- SpeakToDamien
Aug 04, 2023 at 05:18 PM ET
SpeakToDamien
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08/04/23 05:18 PM ET
Garbage back-handed slap at the board. Classy.
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 04, 2023 at 05:35 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/04/23 05:35 PM ET
Relax. More that this topic universally, every message board (especially
-- SpeakToDamien
Aug 04, 2023 at 05:57 PM ET
SpeakToDamien
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08/04/23 05:57 PM ET
Oh? Enlighten us.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 04, 2023 at 06:14 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/04/23 06:14 PM ET
The CFP is fixin' to become the football version of a B1G-SEC Challenge.
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 04, 2023 at 05:03 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/04/23 05:03 PM ET
Said exactly the same thing yesterday, we are at peak CFB
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 06:04 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/04/23 06:04 PM ET
As a motorsports fan, CART and NASCAR should be red-flags to anyone
-- run_VT
Aug 05, 2023 at 12:39 PM ET
run_VT
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08/05/23 12:39 PM ET
there's nothing to negotiate. Nobody has any leverage at all.**
-- reestuart
Aug 04, 2023 at 04:54 PM ET
reestuart
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08/04/23 04:54 PM ET
If you are the ACC why negotiate
-- Mercury
Aug 04, 2023 at 04:38 PM ET
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08/04/23 04:38 PM ET
It’s definitely headed that way…
-- HydrogenHokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 04:31 PM ET
HydrogenHokie
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08/04/23 04:31 PM ET
Lol. The majority of acc schools are paid market
-- SpeakToDamien
Aug 04, 2023 at 05:11 PM ET
SpeakToDamien
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08/04/23 05:11 PM ET
What?? who said anything about a conspiracy??
-- HydrogenHokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 06:21 PM ET
HydrogenHokie
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08/04/23 06:21 PM ET
Market has nothing to do with on field performance, it's media draw
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 06:28 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/04/23 06:28 PM ET
Well I agree with that and never said otherwise, but on a national level
-- HydrogenHokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 06:43 PM ET
HydrogenHokie
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08/04/23 06:43 PM ET
Stop, that's just being pedantic. UNC and Indiana would be a comparison
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 07:49 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/04/23 07:49 PM ET
Disagree about VT vs Minn marketability
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 09:23 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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08/04/23 09:23 PM ET
If you are paid market, you have no options **
-- SpeakToDamien
Aug 04, 2023 at 06:23 PM ET
SpeakToDamien
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08/04/23 06:23 PM ET
Are you seriously trying to argue that individual brands in the ACC..
-- HydrogenHokie
Aug 04, 2023 at 06:38 PM ET
HydrogenHokie
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08/04/23 06:38 PM ET
You said "maiority". Fsu,Clemson and Miami
-- SpeakToDamien
Aug 04, 2023 at 09:02 PM ET
SpeakToDamien
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08/04/23 09:02 PM ET