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Vippie1
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The miracle is the ACC is one of the final 5 left standing

and arguably #3. This from a conference that until 1979 had 57% of its schools in one state (NC) and zero schools that were anywhere near the average enrollments of the Big 10 schools. So yeah the original sin of the ACC is they couldn't project in the 1950s what collegiate sports would be about in the 2020s. So the problem is still #1 on your list- but any fair minded analysis would have to give the ACC a ton of credit for surviving. Yes there have been missteps- BC was a clear mistake. The biggest one IMO was the NC provincialism that prevented them from enticing an independent Penn St (and a few select gettable NE schools) into the conference when they could. ** Edited by Vippie1 at 7/30/2023, 5:23:49 PM
Posted: 07/30/2023 at 05:23 PM ET
(In response to this post by HokieJack)

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How did the ACC get such a bad disparity of revenue...
HokieJack • 07/30/23 11:29 AM ET
Bad football. Very bad football. That is all.**
vatechcowpatty • 07/30/23 09:36 PM ET
Swofford**
LonghornHokie • 07/30/23 09:03 PM ET
Thought we would get ND to join full 🏈, Miami sank, but we still listen to
Stech • 07/30/23 07:28 PM ET
The ND deal was also a defensive move to keep them from joining the Big Ten
Maroon Baboon • 07/30/23 08:23 PM ET
Don't know about everyone else but I knew ND would never join fully (COVID
VPI_1998 • 07/30/23 07:42 PM ET
The Big12 will take Cuse and Louisville.
Big12 guy • 07/30/23 08:00 PM ET
The ACCN in NY alone makes Syracuse worth it.
Maroon Baboon • 07/30/23 08:17 PM ET
I agree with that, but wake has to make that decision. They will not
Big12 guy • 07/30/23 09:01 PM ET
The miracle is the ACC is one of the final 5 left standing ◄
Vippie1 • 07/30/23 05:23 PM ET
Is there 5 left standing? Looks more like 2 to me! Why do we still refer
wwhokie1 • 07/30/23 08:25 PM ET
I think the optics of football games not played at FSU, VT, Clemson,and
HboroughHokie • 07/30/23 03:30 PM ET
Look at the winningest college football programs
Hokie1992 • 07/30/23 03:09 PM ET
Notre Dame is not even a psuedo ACC program when it comes to football. **
wwhokie1 • 07/30/23 08:27 PM ET
95% is #1. If they had done a shorter tv deal then
Colonel Jessup • 07/30/23 02:27 PM ET
alot of hindsight here however. a couple of points
Mercury • 07/30/23 02:07 PM ET
Imagine if they took Penn State with FSU. **
SpeakToDamien • 07/30/23 02:31 PM ET
Imagine if the ACC had a commissioner like Roy Kramer, SEC commissioner who
VTHokie2000 • 07/31/23 02:56 AM ET
I think the answer is partly what others said below and partly because of
HokieAl • 07/30/23 01:49 PM ET
The ACC 's biggest issue is
ren_hoek • 07/30/23 01:43 PM ET
And before that VT was the only consistently contending program. The ACC
wwhokie1 • 07/30/23 08:30 PM ET
It wasn't quite the same time, it helped VT but not the ACC at the time
Synaesthesia • 07/30/23 02:51 PM ET
Huh? Could you elaborate on that "money will follow"?**
33laszlo99 • 07/30/23 02:39 PM ET
Simple Exactly case closed.
Mercury • 07/30/23 02:19 PM ET
This is the key point that I think people here disagree on
HokieAl • 07/30/23 02:47 PM ET
my point is the ACC schools have to DIG deeper within their resources
Mercury • 07/30/23 06:05 PM ET
Bad timing, bad luck.......
2hhoop3 • 07/30/23 01:14 PM ET
Add on the bad deal that Tech signed with...
Old Line Hokie • 07/30/23 01:51 PM ET
actually that was Whit biggest mistake
Mercury • 07/30/23 06:10 PM ET
Every day I am utterly baffled by UNC - they could be top 10-15 program
VPI_1998 • 07/30/23 01:55 PM ET
It’s their fans
OrlandoHokie • 07/30/23 06:54 PM ET
Yep. They have the same "potential" as Ohio State, FSU, Penn State...**
Old Line Hokie • 07/30/23 04:20 PM ET
Bad decisions and (for at least 5 years running now) bad football have
VPI_1998 • 07/30/23 01:41 PM ET
It is still a lot of money. Way better than big 12 or pac 12.
SpeakToDamien • 07/30/23 01:09 PM ET
We have very few teams that generate good to great viewership numbers.
hokieZ71 • 07/30/23 12:52 PM ET
I think it's all 3 & that the football programs were just not that good of
NokieHokie • 07/30/23 12:46 PM ET
Easy. Numbers. Big Ten has huge alumni bases and everyone living
reestuart • 07/30/23 11:42 AM ET
we do too.
Mercury • 07/30/23 06:11 PM ET
Nothing compared to a Big Ten school. **
reestuart • 07/30/23 06:45 PM ET
Let's not forget that the big10 sucks in both football and basketball
ren_hoek • 07/30/23 01:35 PM ET
They suck? LOL. **
reestuart • 07/30/23 03:13 PM ET
Correct - and men's basketball is even worse - no title since 2000!
VPI_1998 • 07/30/23 01:50 PM ET
I.e. tiny private schools with few fans who travel to games.**
EDGEMAN • 07/30/23 12:13 PM ET