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The Big-12 isn’t an apples to apples comparison with the ACC However…
Their financial situation minus the Texas/OU settlement is still very good considering that they lost their marquee teams. The difference is, they did get to negotiate a new TV deal at the current market value and got to again split their media rights amongst multiple outlets, increasing the value of their rights deal, in-line with current schools and the current market. Not only that, but they will get to do it at least once more before the ACC deal is up. While the ACC/ESPN deal has “look-ins” those are still exclusive to ESPN who doesn’t have to compete against anyone while evaluating those look-ins. The Big-12 also handled football and basketball separately in those dealings, getting a better overall deal for basketball as those rights were further split between ESPN and Fox even more than the last contract.
The Big-12 did very well with what they had and while we can get into a pissing match over who makes the 3rd most money… the fact that they are even close without Texas and Oklahoma is a testament to the Big-12 and the deal they put together. Meanwhile, while they are negotiating another TV contract in a few years along with the BIG and SEC, all who will have negotiated 2 new deals before ours are up again, the ACC’s gap will only grow larger.
** Edited by JLM-Hokie at 5/30/2023, 10:13:22 AM
Thread Replies (29)
Just to paraphrase the point I saw from Swaim (please correct). Really eye
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 04:08 AM ET
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05/30/23 04:08 AM ET
UCF won’t make as much as FSU this year, but maybe in two years.
-- WBGV
May 30, 2023 at 03:12 PM ET
WBGV
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05/30/23 03:12 PM ET
still think another podcast expert with no sources and experience
-- Mercury
May 30, 2023 at 11:53 AM ET
Mercury
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05/30/23 11:53 AM ET
The Big-12 isn’t an apples to apples comparison with the ACC However…
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-- JLM-Hokie
May 30, 2023 at 10:07 AM ET
JLM-Hokie
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05/30/23 10:07 AM ET
There is no pissing match over third after Texas/Oklahoma leave
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 11:21 AM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 11:21 AM ET
Swaim is not anywhere close to reality.
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 05:54 AM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 05:54 AM ET
Ok. The lump sum is distorting it. That's good info. That makes the ACC
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 06:09 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 06:09 AM ET
The lump sum will be used to repay the existing 8 schools funding expansion
-- WBGV
May 30, 2023 at 02:40 PM ET
WBGV
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05/30/23 02:40 PM ET
Big12 has reconstituted itself well after losing Texas/Oklahoma.
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 08:02 AM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 08:02 AM ET
I'd like to know how these TV money levels and gaps are where they are. B10
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 06:37 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 06:37 AM ET
Will UCF receive more money than F$U and Miami?
-- EDGEMAN
May 30, 2023 at 05:15 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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05/30/23 05:15 AM ET
These numbers are pretty solid. Maybe is "not that much more," but UCF
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 05:29 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 05:29 AM ET
Those numbers include Texas and Oklahoma in the Big XII and 10 teams
-- hokieZ71
May 30, 2023 at 06:13 AM ET
hokieZ71
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05/30/23 06:13 AM ET
UCF is B12 and the B12 payout is higher than the ACC's. **
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 05:38 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 05:38 AM ET
When they go there, won't they get these number? Which are more than FSU
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 06:01 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 06:01 AM ET
The Big 12 money from the new TV deal doesn't start until 2025.
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 08:13 AM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 08:13 AM ET
Big 12(Swaim) somewhat lie**
-- MrFantastic!
May 30, 2023 at 06:30 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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05/30/23 06:30 AM ET
Here is someone who did a spreadsheet update on those payouts.
-- Truthahn
May 30, 2023 at 11:22 AM ET
Truthahn
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05/30/23 11:22 AM ET
Oh, he corrects himself here:
-- Truthahn
May 30, 2023 at 01:52 PM ET
Truthahn
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05/30/23 01:52 PM ET
Given that the ACC is already at $40 in 2022 he's way off.
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 03:00 PM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 03:00 PM ET
Yes, we were already 3rd place in 2022, IIRC.
-- Truthahn
May 30, 2023 at 03:21 PM ET
Truthahn
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05/30/23 03:21 PM ET
Between now and then we can grow with the ACC Network
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 03:27 PM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 03:27 PM ET
HOO86/anyone else, How big does a state/subscriber base need to be to make
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 02, 2023 at 11:21 PM ET
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06/02/23 11:21 PM ET
Will those payout numbers continue after Oklahoma and Texas depart?
-- EDGEMAN
May 30, 2023 at 05:37 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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05/30/23 05:37 AM ET
So the B12 numbers are inflated by the OU/TX settlement? Even so, the ACC
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 05:48 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 05:48 AM ET
No argument with your points about...
-- EDGEMAN
May 30, 2023 at 07:32 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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05/30/23 07:32 AM ET