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JLM-Hokie
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The Big-12 isn’t an apples to apples comparison with the ACC However…

Their financial situation minus the Texas/OU settlement is still very good considering that they lost their marquee teams. The difference is, they did get to negotiate a new TV deal at the current market value and got to again split their media rights amongst multiple outlets, increasing the value of their rights deal, in-line with current schools and the current market. Not only that, but they will get to do it at least once more before the ACC deal is up. While the ACC/ESPN deal has “look-ins” those are still exclusive to ESPN who doesn’t have to compete against anyone while evaluating those look-ins. The Big-12 also handled football and basketball separately in those dealings, getting a better overall deal for basketball as those rights were further split between ESPN and Fox even more than the last contract. The Big-12 did very well with what they had and while we can get into a pissing match over who makes the 3rd most money… the fact that they are even close without Texas and Oklahoma is a testament to the Big-12 and the deal they put together. Meanwhile, while they are negotiating another TV contract in a few years along with the BIG and SEC, all who will have negotiated 2 new deals before ours are up again, the ACC’s gap will only grow larger. ** Edited by JLM-Hokie at 5/30/2023, 10:13:22 AM
Posted: 05/30/2023 at 10:07 AM ET
(In response to this post by TDVick)

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Just to paraphrase the point I saw from Swaim (please correct). Really eye
TDVick 05/30/23 04:08 AM ET
UCF won’t make as much as FSU this year, but maybe in two years.
WBGV 05/30/23 03:12 PM ET
still think another podcast expert with no sources and experience
Mercury 05/30/23 11:53 AM ET
Poppycock
DrHokie 05/30/23 11:23 AM ET
The Big-12 isn’t an apples to apples comparison with the ACC However…
JLM-Hokie 05/30/23 10:07 AM ET
There is no pissing match over third after Texas/Oklahoma leave
HOO86 05/30/23 11:21 AM ET
Swaim is not anywhere close to reality.
HOO86 05/30/23 05:54 AM ET
Agreed
Vippie1 05/30/23 10:22 AM ET
Ok. The lump sum is distorting it. That's good info. That makes the ACC
TDVick 05/30/23 06:09 AM ET
The lump sum will be used to repay the existing 8 schools funding expansion
WBGV 05/30/23 02:40 PM ET
Big12 has reconstituted itself well after losing Texas/Oklahoma.
HOO86 05/30/23 08:02 AM ET
I'd like to know how these TV money levels and gaps are where they are. B10
TDVick 05/30/23 06:37 AM ET
Will UCF receive more money than F$U and Miami?
EDGEMAN 05/30/23 05:15 AM ET
These numbers are pretty solid. Maybe is "not that much more," but UCF
TDVick 05/30/23 05:29 AM ET
Those numbers include Texas and Oklahoma in the Big XII and 10 teams
hokieZ71 05/30/23 06:13 AM ET
UCF is B12 and the B12 payout is higher than the ACC's. **
TDVick 05/30/23 05:38 AM ET
UCF was not in the Big12 in 2022.
HOO86 05/30/23 05:56 AM ET
When they go there, won't they get these number? Which are more than FSU
TDVick 05/30/23 06:01 AM ET
The Big 12 money from the new TV deal doesn't start until 2025.
HOO86 05/30/23 08:13 AM ET
Big 12(Swaim) somewhat lie**
MrFantastic! 05/30/23 06:30 AM ET
Here is someone who did a spreadsheet update on those payouts.
Truthahn 05/30/23 11:22 AM ET
Oh, he corrects himself here:
Truthahn 05/30/23 01:52 PM ET
Given that the ACC is already at $40 in 2022 he's way off.
HOO86 05/30/23 03:00 PM ET
Yes, we were already 3rd place in 2022, IIRC.
Truthahn 05/30/23 03:21 PM ET
Between now and then we can grow with the ACC Network
HOO86 05/30/23 03:27 PM ET
HOO86/anyone else, How big does a state/subscriber base need to be to make
Maroon Baboon 06/02/23 11:21 PM ET
The biggest variable.......
2hhoop3 05/30/23 03:47 PM ET
Will those payout numbers continue after Oklahoma and Texas depart?
EDGEMAN 05/30/23 05:37 AM ET
So the B12 numbers are inflated by the OU/TX settlement? Even so, the ACC
TDVick 05/30/23 05:48 AM ET
No argument with your points about...
EDGEMAN 05/30/23 07:32 AM ET