Just to paraphrase the point I saw from Swaim (please correct). Really eye
opening
This is the primary one
One of his twitter posts said the UCF will make more TV money THIS YEAR than FSU and UM.
If true... WOW!
So the B12 that was supposedly "on the ropes" has HIGHER payouts than the current ACC?
My conclusions:
When we got into the ACC and WVU got "jilted." I remember telling a WVU person, "in the B12, you will actually have big games almost every week and ... other than money... actually have a better set up than the ACC."
Well, now I guess the money part is no longer true.
Why can't the B12 set up a TV network like the B10. I don't understand why in the age of the internet this matters, but somehow the cable negotiations are based on bringing a state? Maybe someone can explain this. This might be some anachronism and cable itself is in serious decline. Either the B12 can copy the B10 and close the revenue gap or maybe the B10 model regarding cable isn't that solid, since cable itself isn't that solid. Either way the B12 doesn't look so bad in this light.
I really hope we can get an SEC spot, but I guess the B12 isn't as bad as I had thought.
This still looks like that in 2011 VT mismanaged their position WORSE than any school in history by not going to the SEC.
Notice how Utah is getting ragged on because once upon a time they could have jumped to the B12, but now that slot might NOT be there. What do you say about a school that "urinated" away a spot in the SEC, knowing that UNC was always a more desirable franchise than them. A school had a very rare window where 3 schools whose natural football appeal was much higher than theirs (Clemson, FSU and UM) weren't being considered by the SEC, due to an agreement that was eventually bound to unravel and did. That was the point I repeatedly made back in 2011.
The Colorado AD said that "Colorado will do what's best for Colorado" - as they should! The VT people didn't do what was best for VT back in 2011. They took the course of action that ruffled the least feathers. No one had the spine to sharp elbow their way out of the ACC into the SEC.
And now the ACC is basically a corpse.
What was that nutty Wallace Loh at Maryland doing? Why would any "FLAGSHIP" member the ACC just up and leave. He was just some guy from China that didn't know much about American sports. Now Maryland has a secure spot and doesn't have to worry if they can jockey past UVA or UNC into the B10. We are far below UNC and UVa as B10 addition and we are probably way below FSU, Clemson and UM as SEC additions. There was a time when (like Maryland) we could have moved our asses and avoided this situation.
** Edited by TDVick at 5/30/2023, 4:09:44 AM
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** Edited by TDVick at 5/30/2023, 5:12:51 AM
Posted: 05/30/2023 at 04:08 AM ET
Thread Replies (29)
Just to paraphrase the point I saw from Swaim (please correct). Really eye
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-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 04:08 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 04:08 AM ET
UCF won’t make as much as FSU this year, but maybe in two years.
-- WBGV
May 30, 2023 at 03:12 PM ET
WBGV
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05/30/23 03:12 PM ET
still think another podcast expert with no sources and experience
-- Mercury
May 30, 2023 at 11:53 AM ET
Mercury
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05/30/23 11:53 AM ET
The Big-12 isn’t an apples to apples comparison with the ACC However…
-- JLM-Hokie
May 30, 2023 at 10:07 AM ET
JLM-Hokie
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05/30/23 10:07 AM ET
There is no pissing match over third after Texas/Oklahoma leave
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 11:21 AM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 11:21 AM ET
Swaim is not anywhere close to reality.
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 05:54 AM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 05:54 AM ET
Ok. The lump sum is distorting it. That's good info. That makes the ACC
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 06:09 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 06:09 AM ET
The lump sum will be used to repay the existing 8 schools funding expansion
-- WBGV
May 30, 2023 at 02:40 PM ET
WBGV
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05/30/23 02:40 PM ET
Big12 has reconstituted itself well after losing Texas/Oklahoma.
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 08:02 AM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 08:02 AM ET
I'd like to know how these TV money levels and gaps are where they are. B10
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 06:37 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 06:37 AM ET
Will UCF receive more money than F$U and Miami?
-- EDGEMAN
May 30, 2023 at 05:15 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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05/30/23 05:15 AM ET
These numbers are pretty solid. Maybe is "not that much more," but UCF
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 05:29 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 05:29 AM ET
Those numbers include Texas and Oklahoma in the Big XII and 10 teams
-- hokieZ71
May 30, 2023 at 06:13 AM ET
hokieZ71
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05/30/23 06:13 AM ET
UCF is B12 and the B12 payout is higher than the ACC's. **
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 05:38 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 05:38 AM ET
When they go there, won't they get these number? Which are more than FSU
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 06:01 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 06:01 AM ET
The Big 12 money from the new TV deal doesn't start until 2025.
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 08:13 AM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 08:13 AM ET
Big 12(Swaim) somewhat lie**
-- MrFantastic!
May 30, 2023 at 06:30 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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05/30/23 06:30 AM ET
Here is someone who did a spreadsheet update on those payouts.
-- Truthahn
May 30, 2023 at 11:22 AM ET
Truthahn
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05/30/23 11:22 AM ET
Oh, he corrects himself here:
-- Truthahn
May 30, 2023 at 01:52 PM ET
Truthahn
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05/30/23 01:52 PM ET
Given that the ACC is already at $40 in 2022 he's way off.
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 03:00 PM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 03:00 PM ET
Yes, we were already 3rd place in 2022, IIRC.
-- Truthahn
May 30, 2023 at 03:21 PM ET
Truthahn
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05/30/23 03:21 PM ET
Between now and then we can grow with the ACC Network
-- HOO86
May 30, 2023 at 03:27 PM ET
HOO86
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05/30/23 03:27 PM ET
HOO86/anyone else, How big does a state/subscriber base need to be to make
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 02, 2023 at 11:21 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/02/23 11:21 PM ET
Will those payout numbers continue after Oklahoma and Texas depart?
-- EDGEMAN
May 30, 2023 at 05:37 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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05/30/23 05:37 AM ET
So the B12 numbers are inflated by the OU/TX settlement? Even so, the ACC
-- TDVick
May 30, 2023 at 05:48 AM ET
TDVick
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05/30/23 05:48 AM ET
No argument with your points about...
-- EDGEMAN
May 30, 2023 at 07:32 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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05/30/23 07:32 AM ET