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VTHokie2000
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You are forgetting that a new contract or even a NCAA solution may not

work if the schools are still discussing and debating what the new NCAA should look like. Remember this issue doesn't just impact 1 sport (i.e. football) or even the sports that most college fans care about. It impacts ALL (and I do mean ALL) sports that are currently sponsored by the NCAA at ALL 3 DIVISION LEVELS (see the hyperlink). Yes, I know it is Wikipedia, but it is the only site I have found that displays all NCAA sponsored sports at all 3 division levels in 1 place. I can tell you the tables are correct because I took the time to cross reference it with the NCAA website(s) and all 3 division level manuals (aka the bylaws).

Basically what I am suggesting is this; the clock on the DI-FBS football runs out because the schools are still hashing out what to do about all the non-revenue sports, whether schools/conferences can be members of multiple division levels, and other logistical issues that are complicated and most fans don't care to discuss. If you look at some of my other posts in this thread, then you will see a couple different issues that I have raised which the schools will need to address and fans (or posters on here) aren't really talking about at any great length or depth. All fans seem to care to discuss is the impact it will have on football, maybe men's basketball, and maybe a couple more popular non-revenue sports. When someone mentions a less popular non-revenue sport (i.e. water polo or ice hockey) and what impact the new NCAA could have on them, then it is either silence or crickets because most fans don't really care what happens to those sports or assume all the less popular sports will magically go away even though that would likely be a direct violation of Title IX and other similar federal (and maybe even state) laws.
Posted: 01/21/2022 at 01:37 PM ET
(In response to this post by Truthahn)

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Sports Illustrated The Fight Over College Sports Is Here
harlote101 01/20/22 05:13 PM ET
Texas A&M and Jim Phillips have successfully changed the narrative
PaNDalum 01/20/22 09:55 PM ET
Andy Staples weighs in:
TerryD 01/22/22 10:22 AM ET
There seems to be a lot of thought of the P5 breaking from the NCAA
Vienna_Hokie 01/21/22 01:07 PM ET
If the P5s just want it to be either football-only or football and
VTHokie2000 01/21/22 01:48 PM ET
Good post....
2hhoop3 01/21/22 11:12 AM ET
Spot on, this summer I was doubtful this could happen, but Phillips has
Stech 01/21/22 07:52 AM ET
I already said where I thought
TerryD 01/21/22 12:05 AM ET
Why would $85 million not be possible for ND as an independent?
Truthahn 01/21/22 01:09 PM ET
NBC pays ND around 22-23 million a year
TerryD 01/21/22 01:40 PM ET
Honestly, not sure if this has sarcasm or not
RTFC 01/22/22 12:39 AM ET
He asked me why ND would not just stay independent in a P2 era
TerryD 01/22/22 09:34 AM ET
Agree, if ND chooses to accept a pay the players model
RTFC 01/22/22 09:58 AM ET
Doesn’t the acc pay VT 38 million?
Truthahn 01/21/22 09:14 PM ET
Yeah, I see the writing on the wall.
goldendomer 01/21/22 01:25 AM ET
A comment and question about Notre Dame tradition for you and @TerryD
Maroon Baboon 01/21/22 11:16 AM ET
It is beyond a tradition at ND. Independence is what made us the brand we
goldendomer 01/21/22 12:58 PM ET
It is not a "tradition". It is Notre Dame's very identity
TerryD 01/21/22 02:32 PM ET
I think ND threw the origin story away with the partial ACC membership
Maroon Baboon 01/21/22 03:45 PM ET
I didn't say it was noble. I just said it was unique, based on history**
TerryD 01/21/22 11:33 PM ET
Actually it is partial independence, too. Independish!**
Truthahn 01/21/22 09:21 PM ET
Your last suggestion.....
2hhoop3 01/21/22 04:01 PM ET
I like the ACC better, and loathe the idea of the Big ten
goldendomer 01/21/22 03:58 PM ET
One of the main reasons ND independence worked
RTFC 01/21/22 02:01 PM ET
How did ND attract all of those eastern Catholics in the first place?
TerryD 01/21/22 02:29 PM ET
While you accuse him.....
2hhoop3 01/21/22 03:48 PM ET
ND had a bunch of Catholic fans wayway before that
TerryD 01/21/22 05:42 PM ET
The reply was not contending....
2hhoop3 01/21/22 06:35 PM ET
Nope. I didn't say traveling to play teams wasn't a good idea,
RTFC 01/21/22 03:18 PM ET
ND fans are the only ones who count on this subject
TerryD 01/21/22 05:51 PM ET
When they want special rules for a team
RTFC 01/22/22 01:09 AM ET
Don't forget the convicts vs Catholics games
EDGEMAN 01/21/22 12:09 PM ET
Excellent post. In that scenario ND will end up somewhere, or
RTFC 01/20/22 11:35 PM ET
The re-org may be dysfunctional simply because the schools
VTHokie2000 01/20/22 10:04 PM ET
Frankly, some of the non-rev conferences need realigning too.
Maroon Baboon 01/21/22 11:27 AM ET
Oh I agree that some non-revenue sports shouldn't be in a major conference
VTHokie2000 01/21/22 11:45 AM ET
Fasten your seatbelt
33laszlo99 01/20/22 09:21 PM ET
If the new association is a for-profit one, then what does that mean for
VTHokie2000 01/20/22 09:41 PM ET
I didn't notice any time deadlines in the article - this can drag out
PadrosWindup 01/20/22 09:17 PM ET
August: "the committee’s real work begins after the convention; a spring
Stech 01/21/22 12:37 PM ET
I could see this dragging out to where the current contract has expired
VTHokie2000 01/20/22 09:43 PM ET
Given the money to be made on a new playoffs I don't see that happening.
Truthahn 01/21/22 01:19 PM ET
You are forgetting that a new contract or even a NCAA solution may not
VTHokie2000 01/21/22 01:37 PM ET
Yes, a very small risk of the plus one ncaa game.
Truthahn 01/21/22 09:29 PM ET
Under the current DI structure, a P5 Playoff would violate antitrust laws.
VTHokie2000 01/22/22 09:50 AM ET
I'd prefer to fall back to the pre-BCS era honestly.
Maroon Baboon 01/20/22 10:09 PM ET
Me too, but I could see the schools (or the bowls) decide to
VTHokie2000 01/20/22 10:14 PM ET
That mindset works for football, basketball, and a few of the non-revenue
VTHokie2000 01/20/22 07:38 PM ET
Jim Phillips ACC Commish is one of two P5's on the restructuring committee.
Stech 01/20/22 07:13 PM ET
Let winning be the standard. Bring on relegation and promotion.
Maroon Baboon 01/20/22 06:05 PM ET