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Mercury

Wow, it implies Swofford didn't collaborate

What is not said between the sentences is alot

I think there is alot of history between Swofford and Delany back to UNC days. Swofford from Tarboro NC and Delany NJ

1. Delany and Swofford were in the same fraternity and both ran for president. Delany ran a robust campaign, Swofford work the crowd, shaking hands and basically backroom. At the end Swofford won by the backroom and Delany was miffed.

2. Big 10 was miffed at ACC getting the Cuse and Pitt (which Big 10 assumed was their territory). It was done, quietly. Then they were miffed at Swofford leading a clendestine operation to convince PSU to leave. Their answer go after ACC members and they pried away maryland with Rutgers to help claim the DC and NY market. (touche).

3. I think it was time for Swofford to leave,. college athletics moved on. Same at a lower level Delany. ACC getting a Big 10 guy from Northwestern was a HUGE coup and helped right the ship. (he frankly should have been the next Big 10 commissioner). Still bottomline, there is a new rebuilding of close link with the Big 10 and frankly the PAC 12. (Swofford wanted to maintain is relationships with ESPN (led for many years by ACC UNC guys, and the SEC). He was played... When the ACC guys left ESPN and it is now part of Disney inc, it changed to just $$$. Further, ir the guy in the SEC (stenchi ) is a sports attorney first, not an athletic director. His number one is aggressive revenue generation PERIOD.

History is history, and so glad that we are seeing some progress here. Lets hope we can see more collaboration between the PAC 12 BIG 10 and ACC to counter the SEC/ND .
Posted: 12/29/2021 at 10:04 AM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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Since Liberty & BYU are joining conferences,UVA is cancelling future games
HOO86 • 12/27/21 05:12 PM ET
Why would Liberty give up games with P5 teams?
Truthahn • 12/29/21 02:23 PM ET
You got conference games first
Mercury • 12/30/21 04:42 PM ET
When you go from being an Independent to joining a conference
VTHokie2000 • 12/29/21 04:41 PM ET
Scrapping divisions in the future?
Millpoint • 12/28/21 06:10 PM ET
If highest ranked Conference Champions get auto bids, this makes sense.
Stech • 12/28/21 10:40 PM ET
ACC tried a couple of years ago
Mercury • 12/28/21 09:00 PM ET
Delaney said he might have voted for it, but no one came to him about it
Stech • 12/28/21 10:41 PM ET
Wow, it implies Swofford didn't collaborate ◄
Mercury • 12/29/21 10:04 AM ET
A reminder point in #3. Remember the B1X made their choice first...
EDGEMAN • 12/29/21 11:13 AM ET
If the ACC is able to get the bylaws changed to scrap the divisions,
VTHokie2000 • 12/28/21 09:58 PM ET
Dont think about it in terms of championship
Mercury • 12/30/21 03:41 PM ET
My point is that an increase in regular season rematches for the CCG could
VTHokie2000 • 12/31/21 09:27 PM ET
That would be terrific. It was Jim Delany who blocked that 7 years ago.
HOO86 • 12/28/21 06:13 PM ET
Yeah, this is where I am at, get rid of the divisions, Delaney said
Stech • 12/28/21 07:33 PM ET
Liberty might not want to pass up the money when VT plays at their place.
Lakeridgehokie • 12/28/21 11:34 AM ET
Exactly
Mercury • 12/28/21 05:45 PM ET
That's true. They're just working toward enough open dates for conference.
HOO86 • 12/28/21 02:52 PM ET
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe that Liberty joining a conference
Femoyer Hokie • 12/28/21 05:24 PM ET
Probably would give Liberty an out
mrcaniac • 12/31/21 01:42 PM ET
Don't know having not seen the contract.
HOO86 • 12/28/21 05:30 PM ET
Maybe but LU has tons of money.**
IB4TECH • 12/28/21 02:29 PM ET
Really need to get rid of the zipper model in the ACC, the lack of close
Stech • 12/27/21 06:29 PM ET
The ACC's decision to expand from 12 members to 14 members has had a bigger
VTHokie2000 • 12/27/21 07:26 PM ET
We will have to agree to disagree, lack of Geographical Rivalry games has
Stech • 12/27/21 11:22 PM ET
This is when u let the tv folks make the calls
Mercury • 12/28/21 05:53 PM ET
But that is just it though. If the ACC had decided to remain at 12 members
VTHokie2000 • 12/28/21 12:47 PM ET
We are 14, probably need 16 like the SEC, but get it done, no excuses, the
Stech • 12/28/21 12:59 PM ET
Align the conference on primary focus: football vs. basketball?**
LHSHokie • 12/28/21 03:50 PM ET
Sun Belt was a big winner in this latest expansion round. Looks like a
wwhokie1 • 12/28/21 02:33 PM ET
If the ACC expanded to 16, then it is likely the ACC would go North-South
VTHokie2000 • 12/28/21 01:11 PM ET
If the ACC divided North/South, I would be calling the SEC and B1G. **
wwhokie1 • 12/28/21 02:38 PM ET
If the ACC divided North/South, then don't be surprised if
VTHokie2000 • 12/28/21 03:01 PM ET
That would be the kiss of death for VT football matchups
EDGEMAN • 12/28/21 01:21 PM ET
WVU could be #15, but I wouldn't hold your breathe about ND being #16
VTHokie2000 • 12/28/21 01:27 PM ET
Lets see, no, no, no, and no!
EDGEMAN • 12/28/21 01:51 PM ET
Its both
TerryD • 12/28/21 05:09 PM ET
How would you.....
2hhoop3 • 12/28/21 10:54 AM ET
Even though the Big Ten, Pac-12, SEC went geographical in their divisions,
VTHokie2000 • 12/28/21 12:58 PM ET
Do not.....
2hhoop3 • 12/28/21 01:32 PM ET
Oh I agree there isn't a simple solution for the ACC
VTHokie2000 • 12/28/21 01:43 PM ET
I don't buy the public vs private divide, Mia is private, VT is public, was
Stech • 12/28/21 12:52 PM ET
??? So one of our best rivalries was when we were both top ten teams
RTFC • 01/04/22 02:25 AM ET
I am for no divisions, but playing each other more often than anything now,
Stech • 01/04/22 07:20 AM ET
Agree 100% on no divisions
RTFC • 01/04/22 11:22 AM ET
I do have a perspective that the ACC style of football not exciting
Mercury • 12/28/21 09:10 PM ET
I agree, the Coastal got coaches enamored with offense and got soft, more
Stech • 12/28/21 09:18 PM ET
Im looking forward to old Miami VT smack down
Mercury • 12/29/21 12:06 PM ET
Not asking you to buy it......
2hhoop3 • 12/28/21 01:26 PM ET
Just do it, now explain to me why it can’t be done?**
Stech • 12/28/21 07:47 PM ET
If the ACC opts to go with a North/South alignment, then there isn't a
VTHokie2000 • 12/28/21 10:17 PM ET
Not the way it works sport.....
2hhoop3 • 12/28/21 07:54 PM ET
Stop the sport condescending approach, your arrogance is not appreciated.
Stech • 12/28/21 08:02 PM ET
Not condescending at all......
2hhoop3 • 12/28/21 08:08 PM ET
Most people understand close geographical, but since you don’t, and won’t
Stech • 12/28/21 08:32 PM ET
Talk about condescending..
2hhoop3 • 12/28/21 09:01 PM ET
You really need to look in the mirror, you are describing yourself, you
Stech • 12/28/21 09:12 PM ET
You should take your own advice
2hhoop3 • 12/28/21 09:26 PM ET
North and South, with the exception of Miami and most likely 1 Virginia
Stech • 12/28/21 09:57 PM ET
Thanks for reply.....
2hhoop3 • 12/28/21 10:19 PM ET
We agree 😁. Hopefully Jim Phillips can get that through this time. Delaney
Stech • 12/28/21 10:25 PM ET
We do agree.....
2hhoop3 • 12/29/21 11:47 AM ET
Yep, ACC could provide much more compelling TV matchups with actually
wwhokie1 • 12/28/21 10:50 AM ET
Would love for the ACC to ask teams if their cross-over game was important
EDGEMAN • 12/28/21 11:30 AM ET
But would VT play those teams more though? If you look at the Big Ten's
VTHokie2000 • 12/28/21 01:06 PM ET
It would be more often than having BC stuck on our schedule every year
EDGEMAN • 12/28/21 01:19 PM ET
If VT is going to switch the Atlantic, then the swap should be with either
VTHokie2000 • 12/28/21 01:23 PM ET
Would prefer to play more teams from the Alliance.
Maroon Baboon • 12/27/21 06:03 PM ET