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I do have a perspective that the ACC style of football not exciting

ACC, even before expansion was finesse, and excessive penalties (also in basketball). It made for 'polite' football, for the tea and crumpets set. I always thought the big east football did have some legs, it played real hard hitting tough football, with alot of rivals WVU, VT, PITT, Miami, BC and Cuse and it was a slug fest. Really good tough football, That was good football, and it threaten the ACC, so the best way is expansion and go after the Big east. The first run and that fiasco got Miami, VT and BC in. I claim once these schools got in, they adapted the ACC style and basically neutered the rough hard hitting, smack talk that made the football good.

I think its funny, the new ACC might be reborn with smash mouth Miami, with the open checkbook, VT going back to blue collar football first, Pitt being Pitt and BC being BC. and just knocking the crap out of the blue bloods. (and maybe add WVU and really you got the big east back. and the rest of the ACC can go play lacrosse.
Posted: 12/28/2021 at 09:10 PM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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Since Liberty & BYU are joining conferences,UVA is cancelling future games
HOO86 12/27/21 05:12 PM ET
Why would Liberty give up games with P5 teams?
Truthahn 12/29/21 02:23 PM ET
You got conference games first
Mercury 12/30/21 04:42 PM ET
When you go from being an Independent to joining a conference
VTHokie2000 12/29/21 04:41 PM ET
Scrapping divisions in the future?
Millpoint 12/28/21 06:10 PM ET
If highest ranked Conference Champions get auto bids, this makes sense.
Stech 12/28/21 10:40 PM ET
ACC tried a couple of years ago
Mercury 12/28/21 09:00 PM ET
Delaney said he might have voted for it, but no one came to him about it
Stech 12/28/21 10:41 PM ET
Wow, it implies Swofford didn't collaborate
Mercury 12/29/21 10:04 AM ET
A reminder point in #3. Remember the B1X made their choice first...
EDGEMAN 12/29/21 11:13 AM ET
If the ACC is able to get the bylaws changed to scrap the divisions,
VTHokie2000 12/28/21 09:58 PM ET
Dont think about it in terms of championship
Mercury 12/30/21 03:41 PM ET
My point is that an increase in regular season rematches for the CCG could
VTHokie2000 12/31/21 09:27 PM ET
That would be terrific. It was Jim Delany who blocked that 7 years ago.
HOO86 12/28/21 06:13 PM ET
Yeah, this is where I am at, get rid of the divisions, Delaney said
Stech 12/28/21 07:33 PM ET
Liberty might not want to pass up the money when VT plays at their place.
Lakeridgehokie 12/28/21 11:34 AM ET
Exactly
Mercury 12/28/21 05:45 PM ET
That's true. They're just working toward enough open dates for conference.
HOO86 12/28/21 02:52 PM ET
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe that Liberty joining a conference
Femoyer Hokie 12/28/21 05:24 PM ET
Probably would give Liberty an out
mrcaniac 12/31/21 01:42 PM ET
Don't know having not seen the contract.
HOO86 12/28/21 05:30 PM ET
Maybe but LU has tons of money.**
IB4TECH 12/28/21 02:29 PM ET
Really need to get rid of the zipper model in the ACC, the lack of close
Stech 12/27/21 06:29 PM ET
The ACC's decision to expand from 12 members to 14 members has had a bigger
VTHokie2000 12/27/21 07:26 PM ET
We will have to agree to disagree, lack of Geographical Rivalry games has
Stech 12/27/21 11:22 PM ET
This is when u let the tv folks make the calls
Mercury 12/28/21 05:53 PM ET
But that is just it though. If the ACC had decided to remain at 12 members
VTHokie2000 12/28/21 12:47 PM ET
We are 14, probably need 16 like the SEC, but get it done, no excuses, the
Stech 12/28/21 12:59 PM ET
Align the conference on primary focus: football vs. basketball?**
LHSHokie 12/28/21 03:50 PM ET
Sun Belt was a big winner in this latest expansion round. Looks like a
wwhokie1 12/28/21 02:33 PM ET
If the ACC expanded to 16, then it is likely the ACC would go North-South
VTHokie2000 12/28/21 01:11 PM ET
If the ACC divided North/South, I would be calling the SEC and B1G. **
wwhokie1 12/28/21 02:38 PM ET
If the ACC divided North/South, then don't be surprised if
VTHokie2000 12/28/21 03:01 PM ET
That would be the kiss of death for VT football matchups
EDGEMAN 12/28/21 01:21 PM ET
WVU could be #15, but I wouldn't hold your breathe about ND being #16
VTHokie2000 12/28/21 01:27 PM ET
Lets see, no, no, no, and no!
EDGEMAN 12/28/21 01:51 PM ET
Its both
TerryD 12/28/21 05:09 PM ET
How would you.....
2hhoop3 12/28/21 10:54 AM ET
Even though the Big Ten, Pac-12, SEC went geographical in their divisions,
VTHokie2000 12/28/21 12:58 PM ET
Do not.....
2hhoop3 12/28/21 01:32 PM ET
Oh I agree there isn't a simple solution for the ACC
VTHokie2000 12/28/21 01:43 PM ET
I don't buy the public vs private divide, Mia is private, VT is public, was
Stech 12/28/21 12:52 PM ET
??? So one of our best rivalries was when we were both top ten teams
RTFC 01/04/22 02:25 AM ET
I am for no divisions, but playing each other more often than anything now,
Stech 01/04/22 07:20 AM ET
Agree 100% on no divisions
RTFC 01/04/22 11:22 AM ET
I do have a perspective that the ACC style of football not exciting
Mercury 12/28/21 09:10 PM ET
I agree, the Coastal got coaches enamored with offense and got soft, more
Stech 12/28/21 09:18 PM ET
Im looking forward to old Miami VT smack down
Mercury 12/29/21 12:06 PM ET
Not asking you to buy it......
2hhoop3 12/28/21 01:26 PM ET
Just do it, now explain to me why it can’t be done?**
Stech 12/28/21 07:47 PM ET
If the ACC opts to go with a North/South alignment, then there isn't a
VTHokie2000 12/28/21 10:17 PM ET
Not the way it works sport.....
2hhoop3 12/28/21 07:54 PM ET
Stop the sport condescending approach, your arrogance is not appreciated.
Stech 12/28/21 08:02 PM ET
Not condescending at all......
2hhoop3 12/28/21 08:08 PM ET
Most people understand close geographical, but since you don’t, and won’t
Stech 12/28/21 08:32 PM ET
Talk about condescending..
2hhoop3 12/28/21 09:01 PM ET
You really need to look in the mirror, you are describing yourself, you
Stech 12/28/21 09:12 PM ET
You should take your own advice
2hhoop3 12/28/21 09:26 PM ET
North and South, with the exception of Miami and most likely 1 Virginia
Stech 12/28/21 09:57 PM ET
Thanks for reply.....
2hhoop3 12/28/21 10:19 PM ET
We agree 😁. Hopefully Jim Phillips can get that through this time. Delaney
Stech 12/28/21 10:25 PM ET
We do agree.....
2hhoop3 12/29/21 11:47 AM ET
Yep, ACC could provide much more compelling TV matchups with actually
wwhokie1 12/28/21 10:50 AM ET
Would love for the ACC to ask teams if their cross-over game was important
EDGEMAN 12/28/21 11:30 AM ET
But would VT play those teams more though? If you look at the Big Ten's
VTHokie2000 12/28/21 01:06 PM ET
It would be more often than having BC stuck on our schedule every year
EDGEMAN 12/28/21 01:19 PM ET
If VT is going to switch the Atlantic, then the swap should be with either
VTHokie2000 12/28/21 01:23 PM ET
Would prefer to play more teams from the Alliance.
Maroon Baboon 12/27/21 06:03 PM ET