Does someone have a take on these FOUR "No" votes, it runs counter to the
idea that was floated that a core group of schools, namely UVA, VT, NCSU and UNC want to keep the ACC together. We all know that UNC is the scorpion that will bite the frog. But NCSU voting "No" is very interesting. A lot of these are "show" votes that are orchestrated. Of those four, UNC has the strongest hand. Was UVA too scared to vote no and anger in-state politicians and then horse-traded with NCSU? But if so, then is UNC going to have to pull NCSU into a conference with them? Which now might be at the expense of UVA?
If UNC, NCSU and UVA end up in the B10 then I guess that makes VT more attractive to the SEC.
The only other thing I can think of is that NCSU is located in tech hub Raleigh. I would have thought that adding Stanford and Cal would appeal to them, but maybe they feared encroachment.
This four "No" votes and the fact the VA and NC schools took different sides is a real headscratcher to me. Please respond if you have some insight.
If Miami was a "Yes," I find that surprising as well.
Was this orchestrated and NCSU drew the short straw and had to be the bad guy?
** Edited by TDVick at 8/13/2023, 7:17:49 AM
Posted: 08/13/2023 at 06:41 AM ET
Thread Replies (26)
Does someone have a take on these FOUR "No" votes, it runs counter to the
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-- TDVick
Aug 13, 2023 at 06:41 AM ET
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08/13/23 06:41 AM ET
My take: the 4 non-academic schools voted no.**
-- manassashoo
Aug 13, 2023 at 09:46 AM ET
manassashoo
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08/13/23 09:46 AM ET
If ND wants to add those 2 schools, maybe they should join and vote also .**
-- 132598Hokie
Aug 13, 2023 at 11:04 AM ET
132598Hokie
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08/13/23 11:04 AM ET
Once some schools knew there were 4 no votes, it was over and everybody
-- Stech
Aug 13, 2023 at 09:11 AM ET
Stech
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08/13/23 09:11 AM ET
Ok. This makes sense. It was strategic window dressing and everyone
-- TDVick
Aug 13, 2023 at 01:31 PM ET
TDVick
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08/13/23 01:31 PM ET
Somewhat so IMO, the 🍀wouldn’t add 1 game with a team they already play,
-- Stech
Aug 13, 2023 at 01:45 PM ET
Stech
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08/13/23 01:45 PM ET
leveraging for more favorable revenue distribution
-- daveinop
Aug 13, 2023 at 07:52 AM ET
daveinop
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08/13/23 07:52 AM ET
There wasn’t a vote. 4 no’s doesn’t mean 11 yes votes.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 13, 2023 at 07:49 AM ET
hokieZ71
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08/13/23 07:49 AM ET
Agreed a waste of time to try and "analyze " this as it signifies little.**
-- Vippie1
Aug 13, 2023 at 08:25 AM ET
Vippie1
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08/13/23 08:25 AM ET
Yes it was an unofficial vote or a non-vote, but the allocation of whatever
-- TDVick
Aug 13, 2023 at 08:10 AM ET
TDVick
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08/13/23 08:10 AM ET
Honestly I think the best both VT and UVA can hope for in the short term
-- hokieZ71
Aug 13, 2023 at 08:20 AM ET
hokieZ71
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08/13/23 08:20 AM ET
I think that UVA is in a lot better spot than we are. Do you think they
-- TDVick
Aug 13, 2023 at 08:45 AM ET
TDVick
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08/13/23 08:45 AM ET
Stanford didn’t get a sniff from the Big Ten.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 13, 2023 at 09:07 AM ET
hokieZ71
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08/13/23 09:07 AM ET
That's not true. B1G Presidents wanted Stanford & Cal. Fox was the problem
-- neworleanshoo
Aug 13, 2023 at 10:48 AM ET
neworleanshoo
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08/13/23 10:48 AM ET
The Canes No vote didn't count because of a hanging chad ballot.**
-- VTBoar
Aug 13, 2023 at 08:01 AM ET
VTBoar
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08/13/23 08:01 AM ET
I'm a little disappointed Tech didn't vote "No"
-- Old Line Hokie
Aug 13, 2023 at 07:41 AM ET
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08/13/23 07:41 AM ET
If UNC is sufficiently accretive, they can pull in NCSU at a full payout
-- TDVick
Aug 13, 2023 at 07:25 AM ET
TDVick
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08/13/23 07:25 AM ET
Nah I think that’s a “VT-focused” look at what’s going on.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 13, 2023 at 08:12 AM ET
hokieZ71
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08/13/23 08:12 AM ET
I agree. we know that about the FSU, UNC and Clemson, but WHY did NCSU vote
-- TDVick
Aug 13, 2023 at 08:20 AM ET
TDVick
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08/13/23 08:20 AM ET
NC State has the same governing body as UNC.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 13, 2023 at 08:22 AM ET
hokieZ71
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08/13/23 08:22 AM ET
To some degree, you're saying that UNC has much bigger pull politically
-- TDVick
Aug 13, 2023 at 08:29 AM ET
TDVick
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08/13/23 08:29 AM ET
I want there to be more no votes, not less.**
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 13, 2023 at 07:24 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/13/23 07:24 AM ET
There are behind the scenes reasons that things are mot for public use
-- Mercury
Aug 13, 2023 at 07:53 AM ET
Mercury
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08/13/23 07:53 AM ET
I think we all know that FSU wants out and doesn't have an interest in
-- TDVick
Aug 13, 2023 at 08:14 AM ET
TDVick
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08/13/23 08:14 AM ET
Yes. The fact that there were ONLY four is surprising, but the composition
-- TDVick
Aug 13, 2023 at 07:30 AM ET
TDVick
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08/13/23 07:30 AM ET
I would like VT in the SEC, reformed ACC, Big 12, Big 10 in that order
-- OrlandoHokie
Aug 13, 2023 at 11:22 AM ET
OrlandoHokie
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08/13/23 11:22 AM ET