Tech's best strategy is to help shape an entirely new conference
If what we have heard in the last day or two is valid, the B1G and SEC are not going to move beyond 16 anytime unless Notre Dame decides to give up its independence. Even then, the most likely scenario seems to be a limited expansion with ND and perhaps 1-3 current Pac 12 members like Oregon, Washington or Stanford.
I think if there was a reasonably way out of the ACC grant of rights, we would have heard rumblings by now, particularly from Clemson and Florida State - one of which justifiably thinks it ought to earn SEC dollars and the other of which very much needs it to get back on stable footing.
I think any conference structure above 16 members will be unwieldy and the financial returns existing members can expect from further expansion are doubtful unless ND is involved.
I believe the best strategy for Tech and a number of other similarly situated schools is to plan for a day about 10-12 years from now when the ACC, Big 12 and Pac 12 as we now know it will dissolve and allow for the formation of a new conference whose composition could more closely rival the SEC and B1G. It would behoove Tech to identify the 12-20 schools that would fit that profile and begin to have discussions now.
It is time to leave Wake, Duke, BC and Syracuse behind. It is time to ask whether some significant state schools like UVa and Cal-Berkeley and Kansas are really committed to football at the same level as Tech and its peers. It is time to avoid schools with a checkered history, like Baylor and even Louisvillle.
The core of a new conference could very well include most if not all of the following:
Current ACC - Clemson, FSU, VT, NCSU, UNC, Miami
Current B12 - WVU, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Iowa State
Current P12 - Oregon, Washington, Utah, Arizona State, Arizona, Colorado
We are all generally familiar with our ACC peers, and I think it is fair that apart from Louisville, those I've listed likely have the largest consistent attendance figures -- which I regard as a big indicator and driver of broader interest.
I am pretty familiar with the B12 schools from having followed WVU in that league. Folks tend to look down on Iowa State, but it is a very good AAU-caliber school with a terrific fan base. The P12 schools, I know less - particularly with respect to the AZ schools.
But if you take my core and even assume a few of them end up as a member of the current P2, you have the foundation of a very good league with programs like UVa, Pitt, Kansas State or Kansas, Louisville and Houston available as options to fill holes (or, if you like, to replace one or more of the programs among the 16 I listed above).
I think that sort of league, which would stretch coast to coast and could be divided into east and west for many Olympic sports, has far greater appeal than any wholesale merger or expansion of the ACC, Big 12 or Pac 12. Schools like Tech and FSU and WVU and Oklahoma State and Arizona State and Utah have a lot of reasons to collaborate to try to lay the groundwork for such a league, even if its formation may not be able to occur until near the end of the ACC GOR period. That sort of league would be appealing to CBS or NBC or whoever may want a bigger piece of the college football pie because, even though there may be few national brands in the mix, there are also few if any weak brands like BC and Wake to drag everyone down.
Posted: 07/12/2022 at 12:35 PM ET
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Tech's best strategy is to help shape an entirely new conference
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-- Tailgate Guru
Jul 12, 2022 at 12:35 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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07/12/22 12:35 PM ET
Wow. Disagree completely. I don't see where that improves the financial
-- 133743Hokie
Jul 13, 2022 at 10:44 AM ET
133743Hokie
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07/13/22 10:44 AM ET
I'm not concerned about the current ACC beyond the end of the GOR
-- Tailgate Guru
Jul 13, 2022 at 12:45 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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07/13/22 12:45 PM ET
No to pac12 additions. ATLANTIC coast conference. I don’t care if it’s OU
-- 3TechFanz
Jul 13, 2022 at 07:45 AM ET
3TechFanz
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07/13/22 07:45 AM ET
That's assuming football still matters then
-- WestyHokie
Jul 12, 2022 at 07:05 PM ET
WestyHokie
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07/12/22 07:05 PM ET
When in the last 20 years, if ever, has VT been proactive or
-- 133193Hokie
Jul 12, 2022 at 07:02 PM ET
133193Hokie
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07/12/22 07:02 PM ET
Tech’s best strategy is to start dumping money into football
-- hokieZ71
Jul 12, 2022 at 06:44 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/12/22 06:44 PM ET
Miami's past not as checkered as Louisville's or Baylor's?**
-- ONELLY
Jul 12, 2022 at 06:43 PM ET
ONELLY
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07/12/22 06:43 PM ET
Not gonna compete with SEC . Will just be another next tier conference **
-- 133743Hokie
Jul 12, 2022 at 05:42 PM ET
133743Hokie
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07/12/22 05:42 PM ET
Yes. This is the "Medium Tier" I discussed below
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jul 12, 2022 at 05:31 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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07/12/22 05:31 PM ET
ACC can be tier 2 by itself. No need to join with other remnants **
-- 133743Hokie
Jul 12, 2022 at 05:44 PM ET
133743Hokie
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07/12/22 05:44 PM ET
The ACC might be the tallest midget
-- Tailgate Guru
Jul 13, 2022 at 12:50 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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07/13/22 12:50 PM ET
My dream conference would never happen but here is my 16 team conference
-- OrlandoHokie
Jul 12, 2022 at 05:25 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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07/12/22 05:25 PM ET
What I like about this idea is that it attacks the P2's weakness.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 12, 2022 at 04:27 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/12/22 04:27 PM ET
Those 16 would make for a solid football conference.
-- Old Line Hokie
Jul 12, 2022 at 04:01 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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07/12/22 04:01 PM ET
Hurt feelings didn't stop USC, UCLA, OU, Texas, or others dating back to VT**
-- Tailgate Guru
Jul 12, 2022 at 04:01 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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07/12/22 04:01 PM ET
No, but they had explored all options in their situations
-- hokieone
Jul 12, 2022 at 04:49 PM ET
hokieone
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07/12/22 04:49 PM ET
I'm not foreclosing other options
-- Tailgate Guru
Jul 13, 2022 at 01:09 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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07/13/22 01:09 PM ET
Not to mention travel expenses will be through the roof.**
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 12, 2022 at 02:00 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/12/22 02:00 PM ET
Expenses have to be managed
-- Tailgate Guru
Jul 12, 2022 at 03:23 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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07/12/22 03:23 PM ET
should have written "anytime soon" - edit function not working**
-- Tailgate Guru
Jul 12, 2022 at 12:39 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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07/12/22 12:39 PM ET
Great post. Assuming the SEC/B1G do not add anyone, you end up with 48-55
-- hokie4ever
Jul 12, 2022 at 01:15 PM ET
hokie4ever
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07/12/22 01:15 PM ET
I don't want any part of some of those schools
-- Tailgate Guru
Jul 12, 2022 at 03:21 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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07/12/22 03:21 PM ET
Baylor gonna Baylor
-- Tailgate Guru
Jul 13, 2022 at 01:13 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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07/13/22 01:13 PM ET
Scott Drew has been at BU for a long time
-- Marooned
Jul 13, 2022 at 02:04 PM ET
Marooned
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07/13/22 02:04 PM ET
Yep; wonder how he does it?**
-- Tailgate Guru
Jul 13, 2022 at 05:01 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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07/13/22 05:01 PM ET
I take it you are a Baylor fan
-- Tailgate Guru
Jul 14, 2022 at 10:46 AM ET
Tailgate Guru
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07/14/22 10:46 AM ET
And, you play your ACC or PCC member schools but play two crossover
-- hokie4ever
Jul 12, 2022 at 02:45 PM ET
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07/12/22 02:45 PM ET