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VTHokie2000
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VTHokie2000

You are mistaken if you think my reply assumes the ACC would be on par with

the P2. My reply was to "we wouldn't be in this position" and I am saying that the ACC wouldn't be in a stronger position. I believe the ACC having too many private schools and being a basketball first conference would have still been a bigger anchor than what FSU and Miami could overcome. It is possible, maybe even likely, that the ACC would have still agreed to the bad deal with ESPN because the ACC did not have enough football programs remain consistently good like you saw in the Big Ten. Back then the Big Ten had Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Nebraska for its football brand. While the ACC would have had Florida State, Miami, Clemson, and Virginia Tech for its football brand. Now if North Carolina and North Carolina State had stepped up, then the ACC would have had more leverage to negotiate a better deal.
Posted: 03/17/2024 at 12:38 PM ET
(In response to this post by VTCALS72)

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So, with the playoff format and distributions about to
Big12 guy • 03/15/24 10:30 AM ET
Its my understanding that the original deadline for ESPN to extend the ACC
HokieNoVA • 03/15/24 11:55 AM ET
Why are we giving ESPN an extension on the decision?
Maroon Baboon • 03/15/24 07:14 PM ET
What I think not many want to admit is none of the PAC, ACC or B12 had any
VTCALS72 • 03/16/24 08:35 AM ET
Got to remember the P12 decided they didn't want to partner with any...
EDGEMAN • 03/17/24 10:16 AM ET
The media has picked their horses to ride, and the ACC isn't one of them**
tarheelblue • 03/16/24 12:01 PM ET
Yep, and we just as well face that and not blame the VT folks
VTCALS72 • 03/16/24 12:16 PM ET
It's four years extra. Original date was 2021.**
33laszlo99 • 03/15/24 11:11 PM ET
Got an alternative?**
HokiesACC2004 • 03/15/24 10:39 PM ET
Yeah. Say no.
Maroon Baboon • 03/15/24 10:50 PM ET
You need to think a little bit more.......
2hhoop3 • 03/16/24 09:57 AM ET
What does that get us that is positive?
VTCALS72 • 03/16/24 08:41 AM ET
A year of planning for starters. And a change of strategy wouldn't hurt.
Maroon Baboon • 03/16/24 09:59 AM ET
You act like any one actually had power. There was no rollover time after
VTCALS72 • 03/16/24 12:25 PM ET
Fair enough. But if this is the case, no one should be blaming FSU for
Maroon Baboon • 03/16/24 12:31 PM ET
Nor blame the ACC and schools from BC to Wake to fight to get as much out
VTCALS72 • 03/16/24 12:44 PM ET
Even if FSU and Miami had done what they were supposed to do, I suspect the
VTHokie2000 • 03/17/24 11:39 AM ET
Sorry you read into my post that if FSU and Miami had done what
VTCALS72 • 03/17/24 11:58 AM ET
You are mistaken if you think my reply assumes the ACC would be on par with ◄
VTHokie2000 • 03/17/24 12:38 PM ET
People love pile on Swofford and the ACC
Colonel Jessup • 03/15/24 12:15 PM ET
Exactly **
HokiesACC2004 • 03/15/24 10:40 PM ET
I agree, he really didn't have much to deal with
DMV Gobbler • 03/15/24 05:16 PM ET
One of the best post I have seen on this subject.
VTCALS72 • 03/16/24 12:35 PM ET
There really isn't anything to hammer out.
tarheelblue • 03/15/24 11:37 AM ET
They could extend it tomorrow, but I'm thinking they haven't
Big12 guy • 03/15/24 11:44 AM ET
First off, I agree with you that College Football is better if this stops.
hokieZ71 • 03/16/24 08:20 AM ET
That is a really good post - a lot to unpack, at first read, there is
Big12 guy • 03/16/24 09:05 AM ET
With regard to Big XII hoops
hokieZ71 • 03/16/24 10:23 AM ET
The Big 12 learned from the SEC in football on how to stack the deck.**
HouClone • 03/17/24 12:28 PM ET
Need to step back for espn perspective
DMV Gobbler • 03/16/24 07:50 AM ET
If ESPN is going to extend...
SMU Pony • 03/15/24 08:41 PM ET
I'm not sure negotiating now would be "early", but it's a good point
Big12 guy • 03/16/24 08:43 AM ET
Easy guarantee the minimum members for the espn contract
DMV Gobbler • 03/16/24 08:01 AM ET
I don't think conference realignment will stop if ESPN extends the contract
Maroon Baboon • 03/15/24 04:54 PM ET
If the Pac-12 couldn't vote to dissolve their conference with 10 schools
tarheelblue • 03/15/24 05:09 PM ET