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wwhokie1
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Explaining the difference between Toledo winning in the MAC, and SMU

Winning in the ACC is not a circular argument. And it certainly isn't saying "nuh uh". I understand what you're saying, I just disagree. I'm not saying SMU is going to be the equivalent of FSU or Clemson, but they have shown the ability to be far more than a Toledo or a Boston college. And the viewership interest has reflected that. As I pointed out, they maxed out their stadium attendance in their first year in the ACC, and are planning an expansion. That certainly reflects interest. They have the money to produce a winning team. Winning in a power 4 Conference gets attention. We just disagree, that's fine. But to suggest that I'm unable to understand your arguments, or engaging in circular arguments, are just responding with "nuh uh" is not accurate. Time will tell if SMU was a good choice or not.
Posted: 10/22/2025 at 12:03 PM ET
(In response to this post by Baltimore_Hokie)

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FSU, Clemson, and UNC all voted against adding SMU, Cal and Stanford...
SMU Pony • 10/19/25 03:04 PM ET
SMU, I just want to say I am glad SMU is part of the ACC, I struggle with
Stech • 10/20/25 09:02 PM ET
FSU sued calling Stanford out
HOO86 • 10/19/25 08:30 PM ET
I have never liked FSU**
OrlandoHokie • 10/20/25 10:42 AM ET
I was a big fan of Bobby Bowden
HOO86 • 10/20/25 10:36 PM ET
Bowden could have taken FSU to the SEC but chose the ACC.
seekoHoG • 10/22/25 09:46 PM ET
He did give us a lot of great quotes why he wouldn't suspend players...
EDGEMAN • 10/21/25 07:55 AM ET
Those types of insults stick around.
EDGEMAN • 10/20/25 07:38 AM ET
that's so rich**
MrBayAreaHokie • 10/19/25 08:35 PM ET
Got that right, those trees will get after u if you underrate them now:-)
Stech • 10/20/25 04:42 PM ET
According to this, FSU likely to fire their coach tomorrow.**
Stech • 10/19/25 08:17 PM ET
FSU came out today that they are backing Mike Norvell to end of season, but
Stech • 10/20/25 12:42 PM ET
boy that's a spin.... simply they dont have the cash
1947Sunbowl • 10/20/25 02:21 PM ET
It might be costlier to keep him
SMU Pony • 10/21/25 12:26 AM ET
They have incurred alot of debt
1947Sunbowl • 10/21/25 09:48 AM ET
They will keep their head on a swivel, if they lose to Wake Saturday 180
Stech • 10/20/25 03:24 PM ET
$100 million to buy him out and the 2 coordinators.
HOO86 • 10/19/25 08:37 PM ET
And pay the buyout of the coach they hire
mrcaniac • 10/21/25 05:13 PM ET
Would be a startling number, especially since they want to pay ACC exit fee
Stech • 10/19/25 08:44 PM ET
FSU isn't going anywhere. They have no place.**
MrFantastic! • 10/20/25 06:04 AM ET
Don’t think that was always the case, but might be so w/ their recent moves
Stech • 10/20/25 06:20 AM ET
They voted correctly **
Tailgate Guru • 10/19/25 06:47 PM ET
It's telling that the actual reason SMU doesn't belong in any power-
Baltimore_Hokie • 10/20/25 12:07 PM ET
They are at a good location to increase their fan base.
wwhokie1 • 10/21/25 12:55 PM ET
The only way anyone is going to be a fan of SMU is attending school there-
Baltimore_Hokie • 10/21/25 02:40 PM ET
Its a different world now. All that money is gonna buy some good players**
VictoryTurkey • 10/21/25 04:18 PM ET
Again, the point remains - it doesn't matter.
Baltimore_Hokie • 10/21/25 04:30 PM ET
Not so sure, if a team wins, a lot of people want to jump on that bandwagon
wwhokie1 • 10/21/25 08:08 PM ET
If Toledo went undefeated for 5 years straight, it might slightly bump-
Baltimore_Hokie • 10/22/25 09:35 AM ET
Wait, Toledo did go undefeated for about that long. Didn't even
Big12 guy • 10/27/25 09:59 AM ET
Toledo is not in a P4 conference. There's a reason SMU pushed hard to be
wwhokie1 • 10/22/25 10:55 AM ET
I don't participate in circular arguments.
Baltimore_Hokie • 10/22/25 11:52 AM ET
Explaining the difference between Toledo winning in the MAC, and SMU ◄
wwhokie1 • 10/22/25 12:03 PM ET