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I don't participate in circular arguments.

You clearly are unable or refuse to understand anything I'm saying, and can only reply with, "NUH UH!" If you want to ignore all available evidence and choose to believe that SMU, the 7th best college football draw in Texas, that even people in its own state of Texas would only watch if there was no Texas, TAMU, TT, Baylor, TCU, or Houston game on, that literally no other "power" conference wanted for 30+ years, was all of a sudden a solid value add for the ACC, as opposed to a panicked addition by incompetent administrators fearful they were about to take a massive pay cut, then that's your prerogative. You will get no further replies from me on this thread. I hope you have a great day.
Posted: 10/22/2025 at 11:52 AM ET
(In response to this post by wwhokie1)

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FSU, Clemson, and UNC all voted against adding SMU, Cal and Stanford...
SMU Pony 10/19/25 03:04 PM ET
SMU, I just want to say I am glad SMU is part of the ACC, I struggle with
Stech 10/20/25 09:02 PM ET
FSU sued calling Stanford out
HOO86 10/19/25 08:30 PM ET
I have never liked FSU**
OrlandoHokie 10/20/25 10:42 AM ET
I was a big fan of Bobby Bowden
HOO86 10/20/25 10:36 PM ET
Bowden could have taken FSU to the SEC but chose the ACC.
seekoHoG 10/22/25 09:46 PM ET
He did give us a lot of great quotes why he wouldn't suspend players...
EDGEMAN 10/21/25 07:55 AM ET
Those types of insults stick around.
EDGEMAN 10/20/25 07:38 AM ET
that's so rich**
MrBayAreaHokie 10/19/25 08:35 PM ET
Got that right, those trees will get after u if you underrate them now:-)
Stech 10/20/25 04:42 PM ET
According to this, FSU likely to fire their coach tomorrow.**
Stech 10/19/25 08:17 PM ET
FSU came out today that they are backing Mike Norvell to end of season, but
Stech 10/20/25 12:42 PM ET
boy that's a spin.... simply they dont have the cash
1947Sunbowl 10/20/25 02:21 PM ET
It might be costlier to keep him
SMU Pony 10/21/25 12:26 AM ET
They have incurred alot of debt
1947Sunbowl 10/21/25 09:48 AM ET
They will keep their head on a swivel, if they lose to Wake Saturday 180
Stech 10/20/25 03:24 PM ET
$100 million to buy him out and the 2 coordinators.
HOO86 10/19/25 08:37 PM ET
And pay the buyout of the coach they hire
mrcaniac 10/21/25 05:13 PM ET
Would be a startling number, especially since they want to pay ACC exit fee
Stech 10/19/25 08:44 PM ET
FSU isn't going anywhere. They have no place.**
MrFantastic! 10/20/25 06:04 AM ET
Don’t think that was always the case, but might be so w/ their recent moves
Stech 10/20/25 06:20 AM ET
They voted correctly **
Tailgate Guru 10/19/25 06:47 PM ET
It's telling that the actual reason SMU doesn't belong in any power-
Baltimore_Hokie 10/20/25 12:07 PM ET
They are at a good location to increase their fan base.
wwhokie1 10/21/25 12:55 PM ET
The only way anyone is going to be a fan of SMU is attending school there-
Baltimore_Hokie 10/21/25 02:40 PM ET
Its a different world now. All that money is gonna buy some good players**
VictoryTurkey 10/21/25 04:18 PM ET
Again, the point remains - it doesn't matter.
Baltimore_Hokie 10/21/25 04:30 PM ET
Not so sure, if a team wins, a lot of people want to jump on that bandwagon
wwhokie1 10/21/25 08:08 PM ET
If Toledo went undefeated for 5 years straight, it might slightly bump-
Baltimore_Hokie 10/22/25 09:35 AM ET
Wait, Toledo did go undefeated for about that long. Didn't even
Big12 guy 10/27/25 09:59 AM ET
Toledo is not in a P4 conference. There's a reason SMU pushed hard to be
wwhokie1 10/22/25 10:55 AM ET
I don't participate in circular arguments.
Baltimore_Hokie 10/22/25 11:52 AM ET
Explaining the difference between Toledo winning in the MAC, and SMU
wwhokie1 10/22/25 12:03 PM ET