This thread was still on my screen this AM...
For clarification, I never meant to imply that ND would never be able to schedule without the ACC as specific opponents. They will find someone. I said if they are not in the ACC they currently will need another long term scheduling partner, similar to the ACC. They have to have this to integrate with other team's conference obligations in order to fill out their end of season schedule with quality teams - and have a home for non-revs. That is a true data driven point.
Without being specific, I said they have several options - but many of those options also include consequences they don't like. For curiosity, I asked who they would fill the ACC spots with - and the related consequences - they do need someone outside of the current set up - or they will be left with the pieces after conference games are set - those teams would love it - ND not so much.
That could be anything from ND joining a conference full time (which they definitely don't like) - to the whole sport blowing up with completely redrawn team associations (which they probably won't like - collectively the P2 is too powerful for them to get what they want)
My opinions are:
I don't think that the B1G or SEC will give them a similar deal that they have with ACC - they don't have the leverage here - everyone knows they need end of season games - and a place for non-revs. I don't think the P2 will give them enough end of season games to consistently fill the end of the season schedule, and a place for non-revs, without joining.
They could go B12 similar to the ACC - but they seem to prefer a more east coast presence with more traditional academically associated schools - not a slight, just traditional national perception.
They could stay with ACC - with their faux/misplaced outrage. But they seem tired of that - partially warranted with the recent on field performance of the ACC.
The Big East offers a place for non-revs, but no solution to football scheduling.
Will the P2 cave on some conference obligations in a slightly new system to include/schedule ND? Maybe. But the P2 don't "need" ND, it is a plus. ND needs some type of scheduling arrangement.
I personally think this is unlikely unless a complete blow up happens, where it is so different all can claim a win.
Thread Replies (21)
SEC Sankey & ND Becuqva talking all the time, this time about CFP left out **
-- Stech
Dec 10, 2025 at 12:53 PM ET
Stech
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12/10/25 12:53 PM ET
I think the future state is obvious, but many will resist
-- HokieAl
Dec 10, 2025 at 03:35 PM ET
HokieAl
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12/10/25 03:35 PM ET
Interesting, one thing it is really a G6, the PAC will mainly be G5 teams &
-- Stech
Dec 10, 2025 at 04:19 PM ET
Stech
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12/10/25 04:19 PM ET
Actually the new PAC fills a nice geographic spot and role
-- HokieAl
Dec 10, 2025 at 04:51 PM ET
HokieAl
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12/10/25 04:51 PM ET
Looking forward to seeing your usually great research, but I doubt G5 teams
-- Stech
Dec 10, 2025 at 05:00 PM ET
Stech
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12/10/25 05:00 PM ET
ND has gotten very comfortable....
-- TerryD
Dec 10, 2025 at 02:20 PM ET
TerryD
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12/10/25 02:20 PM ET
Will be interesting to see what happens as SEC goes to 9 game schedule.**
-- Maroon Doom
Dec 10, 2025 at 07:50 PM ET
Maroon Doom
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12/10/25 07:50 PM ET
ND scheduled a home/home with Auburn.....
-- TerryD
Dec 11, 2025 at 11:36 AM ET
TerryD
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12/11/25 11:36 AM ET
It would be difficult to schedule late season games,
-- Big12 guy
Dec 10, 2025 at 06:57 PM ET
Big12 guy
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12/10/25 06:57 PM ET
USC is literally trying to avoid playing ND in October and November**
-- SMU Pony
Dec 10, 2025 at 08:47 PM ET
SMU Pony
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12/10/25 08:47 PM ET
GT has 1? Clemson has 1? 1 doesn't cut it if you don't have a conference
-- RTFC
Dec 10, 2025 at 08:12 PM ET
RTFC
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12/10/25 08:12 PM ET
Just an opinion, and I stand by it. Not sure
-- Big12 guy
Dec 10, 2025 at 08:28 PM ET
Big12 guy
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12/10/25 08:28 PM ET
This thread was still on my screen this AM...
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-- RTFC
Dec 11, 2025 at 10:02 AM ET
RTFC
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12/11/25 10:02 AM ET
I agree with most of your post, except that I really
-- Big12 guy
Dec 11, 2025 at 10:33 AM ET
Big12 guy
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12/11/25 10:33 AM ET
Fair. But it is not my opinion - comes from ND fans/schedule data. Night.**
-- RTFC
Dec 10, 2025 at 08:33 PM ET
RTFC
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12/10/25 08:33 PM ET
Hilarious that ND got screwed over for an SEC school, but the ND AD
-- reestuart
Dec 10, 2025 at 01:20 PM ET
reestuart
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12/10/25 01:20 PM ET
Gosh, if only if ND could prove itself and play Miami. **
-- Big12 guy
Dec 10, 2025 at 02:17 PM ET
Big12 guy
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12/10/25 02:17 PM ET
They're only attacking the ACC because the ACC won't fight back.
-- reestuart
Dec 10, 2025 at 02:20 PM ET
reestuart
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12/10/25 02:20 PM ET
Big donors got mad, needed a public outcry, he probably informed Phillips
-- Stech
Dec 10, 2025 at 02:59 PM ET
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12/10/25 02:59 PM ET