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Again, the point remains - it doesn't matter.

I'm not sure how to make that anymore clear. If you think the ACC needed a new member to come in and win all their games, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the primary problem facing the conference was/is. The ACC didn't need a program to come in and win all their games. It needed a brand name that drew eyeballs. SMU is literally the exact opposite of what the ACC needed to address its biggest problem. All SMU coming in and winning a bunch of conference games is doing is making it a whole lot easier to make jokes about how the ACC sucks. There was zero reason to expand when the ACC did. Less than zero. It was just another in a long line of mind numbingly stupid mistakes by the conference. Imagine if the problem at your party was that the punch wasn't getting anyone drunk, and nobody was having any fun, and instead of spiking the punch, you took a big, fragrant piss in it. That's what adding SMU and CalFord did for the ACC. ** Edited by Baltimore_Hokie at 10/21/2025, 4:33:49 PM
Posted: 10/21/2025 at 04:30 PM ET
(In response to this post by VictoryTurkey)

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FSU, Clemson, and UNC all voted against adding SMU, Cal and Stanford...
SMU Pony 10/19/25 03:04 PM ET
SMU, I just want to say I am glad SMU is part of the ACC, I struggle with
Stech 10/20/25 09:02 PM ET
FSU sued calling Stanford out
HOO86 10/19/25 08:30 PM ET
I have never liked FSU**
OrlandoHokie 10/20/25 10:42 AM ET
I was a big fan of Bobby Bowden
HOO86 10/20/25 10:36 PM ET
Bowden could have taken FSU to the SEC but chose the ACC.
seekoHoG 10/22/25 09:46 PM ET
He did give us a lot of great quotes why he wouldn't suspend players...
EDGEMAN 10/21/25 07:55 AM ET
Those types of insults stick around.
EDGEMAN 10/20/25 07:38 AM ET
that's so rich**
MrBayAreaHokie 10/19/25 08:35 PM ET
Got that right, those trees will get after u if you underrate them now:-)
Stech 10/20/25 04:42 PM ET
According to this, FSU likely to fire their coach tomorrow.**
Stech 10/19/25 08:17 PM ET
FSU came out today that they are backing Mike Norvell to end of season, but
Stech 10/20/25 12:42 PM ET
boy that's a spin.... simply they dont have the cash
1947Sunbowl 10/20/25 02:21 PM ET
It might be costlier to keep him
SMU Pony 10/21/25 12:26 AM ET
They have incurred alot of debt
1947Sunbowl 10/21/25 09:48 AM ET
They will keep their head on a swivel, if they lose to Wake Saturday 180
Stech 10/20/25 03:24 PM ET
$100 million to buy him out and the 2 coordinators.
HOO86 10/19/25 08:37 PM ET
And pay the buyout of the coach they hire
mrcaniac 10/21/25 05:13 PM ET
Would be a startling number, especially since they want to pay ACC exit fee
Stech 10/19/25 08:44 PM ET
FSU isn't going anywhere. They have no place.**
MrFantastic! 10/20/25 06:04 AM ET
Don’t think that was always the case, but might be so w/ their recent moves
Stech 10/20/25 06:20 AM ET
They voted correctly **
Tailgate Guru 10/19/25 06:47 PM ET
It's telling that the actual reason SMU doesn't belong in any power-
Baltimore_Hokie 10/20/25 12:07 PM ET
They are at a good location to increase their fan base.
wwhokie1 10/21/25 12:55 PM ET
The only way anyone is going to be a fan of SMU is attending school there-
Baltimore_Hokie 10/21/25 02:40 PM ET
Its a different world now. All that money is gonna buy some good players**
VictoryTurkey 10/21/25 04:18 PM ET
Again, the point remains - it doesn't matter.
Baltimore_Hokie 10/21/25 04:30 PM ET
Not so sure, if a team wins, a lot of people want to jump on that bandwagon
wwhokie1 10/21/25 08:08 PM ET
If Toledo went undefeated for 5 years straight, it might slightly bump-
Baltimore_Hokie 10/22/25 09:35 AM ET
Wait, Toledo did go undefeated for about that long. Didn't even
Big12 guy 10/27/25 09:59 AM ET
Toledo is not in a P4 conference. There's a reason SMU pushed hard to be
wwhokie1 10/22/25 10:55 AM ET
I don't participate in circular arguments.
Baltimore_Hokie 10/22/25 11:52 AM ET
Explaining the difference between Toledo winning in the MAC, and SMU
wwhokie1 10/22/25 12:03 PM ET