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I believe the only reason the 2 divisions for the ACC was a mistake is
because the ACC didn't opt to go with natural cross-division pairings for everyone. If the original 12-team ACC had been this (based on pairings), then I believe things could have been a little different for the ACC.
Atlantic/Coastal
BC-MD
VT-UVA
Wake-Duke
NC State-UNC
Clemson-GT
FSU-Miami or Miami-FSU (I'm not sure it really matters because the Clemson-FSU "rivalry" didn't exist until both schools had a Bowden as its HC).
The one issue the ACC had that wasn't going to be fixed regardless if it went with divisions or not is the fact that majority of the original members did not place a high value on football. Hence why people referred to the 9-team ACC as "FSU and the 8 Dwarfs."
As far as the issue with the Atlantic being the weaker division, all conferences experience that situation at some point. It is basically an ebb and flow between the divisions. Heck even the NFL experiences it between the AFC and NFC (referencing the final scores of Super Bowls).
Thread Replies (26)
Why SEC Reversed Course on CFP Automatic Qualifier Format (link)**
-- Hokester
Jun 04, 2025 at 01:19 AM ET
Hokester
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06/04/25 01:19 AM ET
If the 9th SEC game is worth $5M per team, why don't we do it?
-- Truthahn
Jun 04, 2025 at 01:08 PM ET
Truthahn
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06/04/25 01:08 PM ET
Because a 9th ACC conference game isn’t worth $5M**
-- BROman Hokie
Jun 05, 2025 at 08:19 AM ET
BROman Hokie
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06/05/25 08:19 AM ET
true, but it's worth more than playing VMI or someone like that.**
-- reestuart
Jun 06, 2025 at 12:46 PM ET
reestuart
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06/06/25 12:46 PM ET
It is for the schools in terms of potential ticket revenue. Assuming the
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 06, 2025 at 03:38 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/06/25 03:38 PM ET
I think it's moronic that the SEC & ACC still play 8 conference games.**
-- reestuart
Jun 05, 2025 at 07:51 AM ET
reestuart
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06/05/25 07:51 AM ET
While I think most would agree with your post, you can
-- Big12 guy
Jun 05, 2025 at 08:11 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/05/25 08:11 AM ET
I just think if they are going to continue with the CFP, things within
-- reestuart
Jun 05, 2025 at 08:37 AM ET
reestuart
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06/05/25 08:37 AM ET
My issue with 9 conference games has always been the imbalance of home and
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 05, 2025 at 11:48 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/05/25 11:48 AM ET
Even ACC teams don't want to schedule ACC teams
-- HokieAl
Jun 04, 2025 at 01:17 PM ET
HokieAl
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06/04/25 01:17 PM ET
I always found it dumb that conferences would expand beyond 10 teams and
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2025 at 02:10 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/25 02:10 PM ET
Simple, the conferences wanted more money
-- 1947Sunbowl
Jun 05, 2025 at 07:48 AM ET
1947Sunbowl
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06/05/25 07:48 AM ET
Going to 12, or higher, was required by the NCAA to have championship games
-- Big12 guy
Jun 04, 2025 at 04:22 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/04/25 04:22 PM ET
After getting rid of divisions, it makes more sense to play more conf games**
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2025 at 06:16 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/25 06:16 PM ET
FWIW the SWAC started holding a conference championship game with only 10
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 04, 2025 at 05:14 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/04/25 05:14 PM ET
Just shows that there are always exceptions in the NCAA. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 04, 2025 at 07:05 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/04/25 07:05 PM ET
As with life so I don't see why an organization should be any different.
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 05, 2025 at 11:59 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/05/25 11:59 AM ET
10 conference games when the ACC had 14 member was probably the sweet
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 04, 2025 at 02:55 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/04/25 02:55 PM ET
two divisions ended up being a huge mistake for ACC
-- HokieAl
Jun 04, 2025 at 06:29 PM ET
HokieAl
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06/04/25 06:29 PM ET
I believe the only reason the 2 divisions for the ACC was a mistake is
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-- VTHokie2000
Jun 04, 2025 at 06:41 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/04/25 06:41 PM ET
It's time to make a TRADE!! 5+11 and 9 SEC & ACC games! 1st week OOC rival
-- Stech
Jun 04, 2025 at 09:49 AM ET
Stech
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06/04/25 09:49 AM ET
Losses can and should count the same against a team no matter when they are
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 04, 2025 at 11:55 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/04/25 11:55 AM ET
Sankey just didn't roll over because some coaches bellyached. There is more
-- Maroon Unit
Jun 04, 2025 at 07:33 AM ET
Maroon Unit
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06/04/25 07:33 AM ET
Simple, SEC arrogance says they can get more than 4 in.**
-- Two4VT
Jun 05, 2025 at 05:37 PM ET
Two4VT
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06/05/25 05:37 PM ET
Yes it's better for the SEC, but the public outcry over 8 Auto Bids for P2
-- Stech
Jun 04, 2025 at 09:52 AM ET
Stech
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06/04/25 09:52 AM ET
SEC realized they would be capped at 4 with 8 more losses + 2 more play-ins
-- Sunsetunderground
Jun 04, 2025 at 09:28 AM ET
Sunsetunderground
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06/04/25 09:28 AM ET
You are correct - there's more to it than that for sure. **
-- VPI_1998
Jun 04, 2025 at 07:39 AM ET
VPI_1998
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06/04/25 07:39 AM ET