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VTHokie2000
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I believe the only reason the 2 divisions for the ACC was a mistake is

because the ACC didn't opt to go with natural cross-division pairings for everyone. If the original 12-team ACC had been this (based on pairings), then I believe things could have been a little different for the ACC. Atlantic/Coastal BC-MD VT-UVA Wake-Duke NC State-UNC Clemson-GT FSU-Miami or Miami-FSU (I'm not sure it really matters because the Clemson-FSU "rivalry" didn't exist until both schools had a Bowden as its HC). The one issue the ACC had that wasn't going to be fixed regardless if it went with divisions or not is the fact that majority of the original members did not place a high value on football. Hence why people referred to the 9-team ACC as "FSU and the 8 Dwarfs." As far as the issue with the Atlantic being the weaker division, all conferences experience that situation at some point. It is basically an ebb and flow between the divisions. Heck even the NFL experiences it between the AFC and NFC (referencing the final scores of Super Bowls).
Posted: 06/04/2025 at 06:41 PM ET
(In response to this post by HokieAl)

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Hokester 06/04/25 01:19 AM ET
If the 9th SEC game is worth $5M per team, why don't we do it?
Truthahn 06/04/25 01:08 PM ET
Because a 9th ACC conference game isn’t worth $5M**
BROman Hokie 06/05/25 08:19 AM ET
true, but it's worth more than playing VMI or someone like that.**
reestuart 06/06/25 12:46 PM ET
It is for the schools in terms of potential ticket revenue. Assuming the
VTHokie2000 06/06/25 03:38 PM ET
I think it's moronic that the SEC & ACC still play 8 conference games.**
reestuart 06/05/25 07:51 AM ET
While I think most would agree with your post, you can
Big12 guy 06/05/25 08:11 AM ET
I just think if they are going to continue with the CFP, things within
reestuart 06/05/25 08:37 AM ET
My issue with 9 conference games has always been the imbalance of home and
VTHokie2000 06/05/25 11:48 AM ET
Even ACC teams don't want to schedule ACC teams
HokieAl 06/04/25 01:17 PM ET
I always found it dumb that conferences would expand beyond 10 teams and
Maroon Baboon 06/04/25 02:10 PM ET
Simple, the conferences wanted more money
1947Sunbowl 06/05/25 07:48 AM ET
Going to 12, or higher, was required by the NCAA to have championship games
Big12 guy 06/04/25 04:22 PM ET
After getting rid of divisions, it makes more sense to play more conf games**
Maroon Baboon 06/04/25 06:16 PM ET
FWIW the SWAC started holding a conference championship game with only 10
VTHokie2000 06/04/25 05:14 PM ET
Just shows that there are always exceptions in the NCAA. **
Big12 guy 06/04/25 07:05 PM ET
As with life so I don't see why an organization should be any different.
VTHokie2000 06/05/25 11:59 AM ET
10 conference games when the ACC had 14 member was probably the sweet
VTHokie2000 06/04/25 02:55 PM ET
two divisions ended up being a huge mistake for ACC
HokieAl 06/04/25 06:29 PM ET
I believe the only reason the 2 divisions for the ACC was a mistake is
VTHokie2000 06/04/25 06:41 PM ET
It's time to make a TRADE!! 5+11 and 9 SEC & ACC games! 1st week OOC rival
Stech 06/04/25 09:49 AM ET
Losses can and should count the same against a team no matter when they are
Maroon Baboon 06/04/25 11:55 AM ET
Sankey just didn't roll over because some coaches bellyached. There is more
Maroon Unit 06/04/25 07:33 AM ET
Simple, SEC arrogance says they can get more than 4 in.**
Two4VT 06/05/25 05:37 PM ET
Yes it's better for the SEC, but the public outcry over 8 Auto Bids for P2
Stech 06/04/25 09:52 AM ET
SEC realized they would be capped at 4 with 8 more losses + 2 more play-ins
Sunsetunderground 06/04/25 09:28 AM ET
You are correct - there's more to it than that for sure. **
VPI_1998 06/04/25 07:39 AM ET