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I could really care less what FSU and/or Clemson do.

If someone doesn't want to be in a conference, let'em go. Pay the agreed upon withdrawal amounts, and don't let the door hit you where the good lord split ya. And, as far as your opining on "...they are negotiating how much money to leave at the door,..." shame on the ACC if they are negotiating. They signed onto the agreement(s), so pay up and get out.
Posted: 04/21/2024 at 02:32 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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The ACC does not equal the PAC
VT ChemE 1986 04/20/24 12:56 PM ET
Sure, it'll survive and here's what it'll look like by 2030 (+- 5 years)
HokieNoVA 04/21/24 01:50 PM ET
So many Sooth sayers in here tonight. Glad we all now know the ACC's
ancient alien 2018 04/22/24 02:33 AM ET
No problem, happy to help.**
HokieNoVA 04/22/24 09:50 AM ET
Delete SMU and add Liberty**
CrystalCoveHokie 04/21/24 04:55 PM ET
500,000 downvotes!! You really want that cesspool of hypocrites in the ACC?**
ancient alien 2018 04/22/24 02:28 AM ET
The best Liberty can do is get in Conference USA and you want to add them?**
HokiesACC2004 04/21/24 10:15 PM ET
You left out VaTech and NCState
VPI 1924 04/21/24 03:49 PM ET
It will survive as long as ND wants it to.
Millpoint 04/21/24 08:49 AM ET
Once FSU/Clemson leave
INSIDE99 04/21/24 08:40 PM ET
Agreed, which as long as ironically ND wants to be independent. ND Olympic
Stech 04/21/24 09:18 AM ET
Honestly......
2hhoop3 04/21/24 09:54 AM ET
Amen
Minden Hokie 04/22/24 09:34 AM ET
Hear! Hear! They have a recognized path out of the conference.
saret 04/21/24 10:07 AM ET
Careful what you ask for, it looks like they are negotiating
Big12 guy 04/21/24 11:23 AM ET
Let me guess, you also have "sources" that told you this? **
ancient alien 2018 04/22/24 02:31 AM ET
I really don't want them in the ACC anymore.
Atlee Hokie 04/21/24 03:01 PM ET
I could really care less what FSU and/or Clemson do.
saret 04/21/24 02:32 PM ET
Agree, well stated saret !**
FLKEYSHOKIE 04/21/24 05:14 PM ET
Don't let them out at a discount!
EDGEMAN 04/21/24 03:36 PM ET
ESPN will sweet talk the ACC presidents and FSU and Clemson...
Old Line Hokie 04/21/24 06:13 PM ET
Dec 3
INSIDE99 04/21/24 09:00 PM ET
You may be right, but I hope sincerely you are not.**
saret 04/21/24 08:26 PM ET
I’m sure the ACC execs have experts telling them how much
Marooned 04/21/24 07:21 PM ET
It will be alive in some shape or form **
HokiesACC2004 04/20/24 07:41 PM ET
Sweet talk with a better media contract? seems that is
Big12 guy 04/21/24 06:21 PM ET
I think you are incorrect
DrHokie 04/20/24 07:29 PM ET
It’s true like the B12 w/o Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Nebraska & Missouri
Stech 04/20/24 10:36 PM ET
B12 picked up decent remnants of the PAC too
Marooned 04/21/24 07:24 PM ET
When the ACC loses FSU and Clemson, I think they could still survive and
VPI_1998 04/20/24 08:07 PM ET
Carolina is key for sure**
Millpoint 04/21/24 09:25 AM ET
For 🏀 they’re important, but UCONN can fill that gap. Ever been to UNC 🏈
Stech 04/21/24 01:15 PM ET
That’s true
Millpoint 04/21/24 02:11 PM ET
True, although NC State has a better football record as of late.**
Stech 04/21/24 03:57 PM ET
I agree with this 100% While i have yet to visit a stadium in Virginia, I
Big12 guy 04/21/24 01:41 PM ET
Yeah I was startled except the NC State game, much better than the other 3.**
Stech 04/21/24 04:00 PM ET
Replacing FSU with South Florida would be number 1 on my list **
HokiesACC2004 04/20/24 11:51 PM ET
The PAC turned down $25M a year from ESPN (reported), the B12
Big12 guy 04/20/24 02:15 PM ET
ESPN needs 🏀 content outside the Southeast, 🦊 has B1G, B12 & Big East.
Stech 04/21/24 08:54 AM ET
The current environment discards basketball as the main driver
Big12 guy 04/21/24 09:47 AM ET
My real question is what is best for VT.
VTCALS72 04/20/24 04:00 PM ET
The worst case scenario is being the #4 football conference...
Old Line Hokie 04/20/24 01:08 PM ET
Losing FSU and Clemson would not move the XII "clearly" ahead of the ACC
VTCALS72 04/20/24 01:31 PM ET
If FSU and Clemson bolt. I'd like to see the ACC grab OKST, Kansas, AZ
TDVick 05/01/24 05:39 AM ET
You lost me at "biggest brands are T Tech and BYU"
Tailgate Guru 04/23/24 01:20 PM ET
Agree with the basic assessment, but not clear on the TT and BYU
GALOISGROUP 04/21/24 03:56 AM ET
Not in football **
CrystalCoveHokie 04/20/24 06:28 PM ET
There are endless ways of trying to predict the fate of The ACC after the
33laszlo99 04/20/24 04:00 PM ET
Yes but that misses THE question, what leaves VT in the best position.
VTCALS72 04/20/24 04:10 PM ET
VTCAL, you seem to view this as a race between The ACC and The Big 12 for
33laszlo99 04/20/24 04:41 PM ET
How did you get that? No you have it totally wrong
VTCALS72 04/20/24 05:59 PM ET
You get props for your optimism. I could post some of Tony Altimore's data
33laszlo99 04/20/24 08:47 PM ET
You still don't understand
VTCALS72 04/20/24 10:15 PM ET
You are either grossly overrating those ACC teams or perhaps you have the
33laszlo99 04/20/24 11:06 PM ET
Just looking at avg. football atttendance
Old Line Hokie 04/20/24 02:36 PM ET
The 4 corners was the game changer. Those markets and programs
Big12 guy 04/20/24 02:29 PM ET
Is what you just posted "clearly better?"
VTCALS72 04/20/24 03:26 PM ET
Duke football lacks the eyeballs.**
IB4TECH 04/21/24 10:14 AM ET
Wake?
GALOISGROUP 04/21/24 04:08 AM ET
Talking about Wake under Clawson. Just as good on the field
VTCALS72 04/21/24 05:24 PM ET
No, definitely not clearly better, but the B12 doesn't have
Big12 guy 04/20/24 03:32 PM ET
However
VPI 1924 04/20/24 03:23 PM ET
That’s funny
CMU Hokie 04/21/24 05:31 PM ET
And - they have a U.S. House Representative who says the moon is made of
VPI_1998 04/20/24 08:01 PM ET
Ya, but they have never been known to fill their football stadium. **
Big12 guy 04/20/24 03:29 PM ET