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There is always the possibility that the leftover AAC schools, ACC schools,
C-USA schools, MAC schools, and Sun Belt schools may not want to join the Pac-X for whatever reason. At least there is always the possibility they want to join a conference that is closer to home or form a brand new conference. My underlying point is that it is in the Pac-X's best interest to get to 8 full members as quickly as possible to satisfy the agreement with the NCAA. Then the conference can consider poaching from conferences located east of the Mississippi River.
If the Pac-X can't fulfill its part of the agreement with the NCAA in time because it waited to try to poach from conferences east of the Mississippi River, then it runs the risk of losing both its DI-FBS status and NCAA automatic bids to most/all of the NCAA tournaments (including March Madness) because it may not have enough members, who played with each in another conference long enough, to fulfill the bylaw requirements for automatic bids. A perfect example is the Great West Conference which was originally founded as a DI football-only conference in 2004. It later switched to a multi-sport conference and eventually ceased to exist in 2013. Even after it decided to drop football, it failed because it could never have enough members remain in the conference long enough to satisfy the time requirement so it could receive automatic bids to the NCAA Tournaments.
31.3.4.2 Requirements -- National Collegiate Championship. [#] To be eligible for automatic qualification in a
National Collegiate Championship, a member conference must meet the following general requirements: (Adopted: 1/9/06
effective 8/1/06)
(a) Have at least six active members that sponsor the applicable sport in any division (Note: A provisional member in the
process of becoming an NCAA member may not be used to meet the requisite number.);
(b) The six active members must have conducted conference competition together for the preceding two years in the
applicable sport;
(c) There shall be no waivers of the two-year waiting period; and
(d) Any new member added to a conference that is eligible for an automatic bid shall be immediately eligible to represent
the conference as the automatic qualifier.
Thread Replies (65)
San Diego State, Colorado State, Fresno State, and Boise State join PAC-12
-- HOO86
Sep 12, 2024 at 02:14 PM ET
HOO86
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09/12/24 02:14 PM ET
Hmmm, an all state conference.**
-- IB4TECH
Sep 13, 2024 at 11:06 AM ET
IB4TECH
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09/13/24 11:06 AM ET
Ball State is suddenly aroused**
-- HwoodHokie
Sep 13, 2024 at 11:15 AM ET
HwoodHokie
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09/13/24 11:15 AM ET
Must be ‘xxxxx’ State to join. FSU has found its landing spot. **
-- D-Day
Sep 13, 2024 at 09:06 AM ET
D-Day
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09/13/24 09:06 AM ET
I wonder how aggressive the new PAC will be in expanding
-- HokieAl
Sep 12, 2024 at 05:59 PM ET
HokieAl
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09/12/24 05:59 PM ET
I don't think so. they just got the top 4 brands from the Mountain West. I
-- Big12 guy
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:16 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/12/24 08:16 PM ET
Time may not be on the Pac-X's side though. Particularly if they end up
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:21 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/12/24 08:21 PM ET
I also don’t think they have much time. First goal is to get to 8 teams
-- HokieAl
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:52 PM ET
HokieAl
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09/12/24 08:52 PM ET
What am I missing? By taking only the top 4 Mountain West schools, they are
-- Big12 guy
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:33 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/12/24 08:33 PM ET
There is always the possibility that the leftover AAC schools, ACC schools,
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-- VTHokie2000
Sep 12, 2024 at 11:33 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/12/24 11:33 PM ET
While I understand the need for 8, if they didn't think they could
-- Big12 guy
Sep 13, 2024 at 07:54 AM ET
Big12 guy
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09/13/24 07:54 AM ET
I think your view on this is a bit biased. The fact that
-- Big12 guy
Sep 13, 2024 at 08:40 AM ET
Big12 guy
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09/13/24 08:40 AM ET
When did I ever say that either school was a candidate for the Big XII?
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 08:55 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 08:55 AM ET
OK, you didn't explicitly state that about New Mexico of UNLV, but even
-- Big12 guy
Sep 13, 2024 at 09:06 AM ET
Big12 guy
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09/13/24 09:06 AM ET
WRT the reasons why UNLV isn't on the ACC's radar, I will give you the ONE
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 09:20 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 09:20 AM ET
Right. A valid reason in the old days. It's why the original PAC12
-- Big12 guy
Sep 13, 2024 at 09:27 AM ET
Big12 guy
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09/13/24 09:27 AM ET
What you either don't understand or seem to be missing is that for the ACC
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 09:43 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 09:43 AM ET
I understand. The ACC is academically superior to the SEC
-- Big12 guy
Sep 13, 2024 at 09:50 AM ET
Big12 guy
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09/13/24 09:50 AM ET
I was merely responding to your statement, "A valid reason in the old days"
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 09:54 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 09:54 AM ET
The old PAC12 certainly did. **
-- Big12 guy
Sep 13, 2024 at 09:58 AM ET
Big12 guy
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09/13/24 09:58 AM ET
Academics could end up being the reason that Cal and Stanford don't end up
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 10:01 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 10:01 AM ET
I don't think that is what the new PAC is going for. **
-- Big12 guy
Sep 13, 2024 at 10:02 AM ET
Big12 guy
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09/13/24 10:02 AM ET
It doesn't mean that Oregon State and/or Wazzou don't hope they can't be
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 10:15 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 10:15 AM ET
Dan Wolken wrote an article yesterday for the USA Today which talks about
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 08:27 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 08:27 AM ET
Hawai'i would be a likely candidate. Unless something has changed recently
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 08:02 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 08:02 AM ET
FWIW the rules clearly state that if the Pac-X wants to still be considered
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:02 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/12/24 08:02 PM ET
2 things 1) quality for a D1 FBS and be a power 4
-- 1947Sunbowl
Sep 13, 2024 at 08:57 AM ET
1947Sunbowl
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09/13/24 08:57 AM ET
I believe the Pac has already lost its power conference status. At least
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 09:12 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 09:12 AM ET
Their brand is the PAC 12. **
-- Big12 guy
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:33 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/12/24 08:33 PM ET
It doesn't matter if the conference's brand is the Pac-8, Pac-10, Pac-12,
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 12, 2024 at 11:46 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/12/24 11:46 PM ET
It will go down as a brazen act of misplaced hubris-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 12, 2024 at 04:02 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/12/24 04:02 PM ET
Oh, they entertained it. It was included as an option in the scheduling
-- 33laszlo99
Sep 12, 2024 at 07:15 PM ET
33laszlo99
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09/12/24 07:15 PM ET
Nope-this is a relegationmove by Boise, Fresno, SDSU CSU
-- PadrosWindup
Sep 12, 2024 at 06:28 PM ET
PadrosWindup
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09/12/24 06:28 PM ET
UNLV, Memphis, Texas State, and San Jose State or Nevada would round it out**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 13, 2024 at 10:24 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/13/24 10:24 AM ET
Well I'm taking State to dominate the new PAC**
-- Vippie1
Sep 12, 2024 at 03:44 PM ET
Vippie1
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09/12/24 03:44 PM ET
Sounds like maybe Dr. Pepper is sponsoring the conference. **
-- Big12 guy
Sep 12, 2024 at 04:12 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/12/24 04:12 PM ET
Do you know what the out clause is for Stanford &Cal in the ACC? Since they
-- Stech
Sep 12, 2024 at 03:23 PM ET
Stech
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09/12/24 03:23 PM ET
interesting question; one comment Pac 12 will not be a Power 4 conference
-- 1947Sunbowl
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:27 PM ET
1947Sunbowl
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09/12/24 08:27 PM ET
I assume it is the same as everyone else.
-- HOO86
Sep 12, 2024 at 03:39 PM ET
HOO86
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09/12/24 03:39 PM ET
I would think UNLV was high on their list. I wonder if they are holding out
-- reestuart
Sep 12, 2024 at 02:46 PM ET
reestuart
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09/12/24 02:46 PM ET
Nevada legislature is trying to force UNLV and UNR package
-- HOO86
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:51 PM ET
HOO86
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09/12/24 08:51 PM ET
Las Vegas State would've got in. ;)
-- Old Line Hokie
Sep 12, 2024 at 07:42 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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09/12/24 07:42 PM ET
Right now, I think, The PAC just wants to get an eight-team conference
-- 33laszlo99
Sep 12, 2024 at 06:07 PM ET
33laszlo99
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09/12/24 06:07 PM ET
I think their dream scenario is the four from the AAC.
-- Truthahn
Sep 13, 2024 at 12:15 PM ET
Truthahn
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09/13/24 12:15 PM ET
We live in some crazy times when Memphis and South Florida could end up in
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:06 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/12/24 08:06 PM ET
ACC would be stupid to let USF go.
-- HOO86
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:55 PM ET
HOO86
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09/12/24 08:55 PM ET
I wish the ACC would get both USF and eventually UCF. The war on I4.**
-- OrlandoHokie
Sep 13, 2024 at 09:44 AM ET
OrlandoHokie
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09/13/24 09:44 AM ET
I have always enjoyed that rivalry. I was surprised the Big XII didn't add
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 09:57 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 09:57 AM ET
USF's value may in part be depended upon having UCF in the same conference.
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 01:46 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 01:46 PM ET
Maybe, but when the B12 invited USC and not USF, they did
-- Big12 guy
Sep 13, 2024 at 01:54 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/13/24 01:54 PM ET
WRT empty stadiums, isn't UCF's stadium located in a "bad part of town" or
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 13, 2024 at 04:12 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/13/24 04:12 PM ET
I don't know the attendance history. What I do know is that schools
-- Big12 guy
Sep 13, 2024 at 04:34 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/13/24 04:34 PM ET
Well the ACC has a history of making stupid decisions.**
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 12, 2024 at 11:34 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/12/24 11:34 PM ET
Why would the Big XII want UNLV?
-- Pylons
Sep 12, 2024 at 03:00 PM ET
Pylons
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09/12/24 03:00 PM ET
Sure, Las Vegas. I don't think the Big XII necessarily wants them, but I
-- reestuart
Sep 12, 2024 at 03:46 PM ET
reestuart
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09/12/24 03:46 PM ET
Colorado State may make more sense in that they have
-- Big12 guy
Sep 12, 2024 at 04:09 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/12/24 04:09 PM ET
FWIW a reason the NHL agreed to Las Vegas having an expansion franchise
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 12, 2024 at 07:53 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/12/24 07:53 PM ET
It hasn't yet. That being said, Yormark may move the B12
-- Big12 guy
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:10 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/12/24 08:10 PM ET
I believe last year or this year was/is the first season UNLV played its
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 12, 2024 at 08:15 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/12/24 08:15 PM ET
their stadium looks really nice. **
-- reestuart
Sep 12, 2024 at 04:34 PM ET
reestuart
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09/12/24 04:34 PM ET
I would think at this point it's more about overall media eyeballs
-- Pylons
Sep 12, 2024 at 04:03 PM ET
Pylons
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09/12/24 04:03 PM ET
That moved quick to official status. Next 2-4 teams are probably ready **
-- HokieAl
Sep 12, 2024 at 02:26 PM ET
HokieAl
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09/12/24 02:26 PM ET
Being official will bring a shake up in the G5 space. While it will
-- Big12 guy
Sep 12, 2024 at 02:21 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/12/24 02:21 PM ET