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I Don't See the PAC Refusals On Expansion as being Self Destructive

I am aware that the PAC front office asked FOX for a Renewal Media Contract that FOX felt was too high priced. However was that a reason for both FOX & ESPN to both permanently decide to never even make competitive offers to that PAC front ever again? That is exactly what happened. Then FOX & ESPN both in that same time frame immediately after refusing the PAC, gave the Big-12 a competitive Brand New Renewal Media Contract. A new Big-12 Media Contract that literally & I say conveniently allowed the Big-12 to lure & pillage PAC schools. This also all gave the B1G an excuse to again swoop in and take Oregon & Washington that were by then desperate and took a 50% reduced share in the B1G for the future. It all looks very orchestrated by Big Media to destroy the PAC. I know the PAC could have expanded twice in the past. Texas & Oklahoma a dozen years ago & Big-12 schools immediately after Texas & Oklahoma announced intent to go to the SEC. Those PAC potential expansions would have surely altered the present day conference landscape. However I don't see the PAC not expanding as self destructive. The PAC had expanded twice in the past as I remember. First adding the two Arizona schools. Then in more recent years adding Utah & Colorado. The PAC was not historically phobic against expansion. The SEC has expanded in 3 phases in the past. If the SEC should refuse to ever expand past 16. Which is remotely possible. Then the B1G goes on to heavily expand to 30 schools. Let's say all that eventually allows the B1G to absorb the SEC. Does that make the SEC refusal to expand self-destructive? No, the SEC just made a mistake. I see the PAC just making mistakes.
Posted: 07/17/2024 at 04:20 AM ET
(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

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SIR: Actual reporting! McMurphy: SEC, B1G have "no appetite" to add FSU
PitHokie 07/16/24 02:54 PM ET
Regarding FSU's attempt to expose ESPN and scrutinize Swofford which
TDVick 07/19/24 01:31 PM ET
Nothing I enjoy more then a FSU takedown article
Vippie1 07/16/24 09:05 PM ET
Me too
HokiesACC2004 07/17/24 06:47 AM ET
FSU has not been a good partner. Ya think?
HOO86 07/16/24 06:53 PM ET
I don’t know, that whole article screams “It’s going down”. Maybe just me.
hokieZ71 07/16/24 06:05 PM ET
They are anonymous sources lol. **
SpeakToDamien 07/16/24 06:27 PM ET
Just to be clearer, these are some excerpts from the article
hokieZ71 07/16/24 08:42 PM ET
Nice. They called us geniuses. Seems legit.**
Truthahn 07/16/24 11:39 PM ET
Oh, anonymous sources from the WCC? The Mountain West? CUSA?
hokieZ71 07/16/24 06:29 PM ET
Sounds like a conspiracy. **
LowIQHOO 07/16/24 05:17 PM ET
Sounds Like the Same Song By Brett McMurphy
WarHog38 07/16/24 04:39 PM ET
The PAC destroyed the PAC. We don't know what is going on behind closed
Big12 guy 07/16/24 07:23 PM ET
All the PAC Schools Were Complaining About No Media Deal As it Went Down in
WarHog38 07/16/24 09:52 PM ET
The PAC was self destructive......
2hhoop3 07/17/24 12:17 AM ET
I Don't See the PAC Refusals On Expansion as being Self Destructive
WarHog38 07/17/24 04:20 AM ET
I agree with.....
2hhoop3 07/17/24 09:44 AM ET
I Still See a Clear Difference in Making Mistakes & Self-Destructive
WarHog38 07/17/24 03:28 PM ET
You make a mistake.......
2hhoop3 07/17/24 03:36 PM ET
Well They Made the Same Mistake Two Times with Two Different Commissioners
WarHog38 07/17/24 04:10 PM ET
The Presidents and ADs.......
2hhoop3 07/17/24 04:30 PM ET
You are correct on the football part with the ACC, but that isn't the
Big12 guy 07/18/24 09:00 AM ET
I disagree that......
2hhoop3 07/18/24 09:53 AM ET
I don't know. The time slot that WVU brought to the B12 was worth
Big12 guy 07/18/24 10:13 AM ET
While they may.......
2hhoop3 07/18/24 10:25 AM ET
The PAC 12 didn’t have the extended GOR, so a very different scenario.**
VT ChemE 1986 07/16/24 07:44 PM ET
The SEC absolutely does not want UVA over VT. There isn’t a single metric
HolidayInnHokie 07/16/24 05:45 PM ET
Right About Those TV Ratings
WarHog38 07/16/24 06:23 PM ET
I believe that neither the B1G or SEC would have much interest in adding
FLKEYSHOKIE 07/16/24 06:10 PM ET
We are hearing that the SEC lust after UNC. You know the national
VTCALS72 07/16/24 05:58 PM ET
UNC and/or UVA......
2hhoop3 07/16/24 07:17 PM ET
VT owns NOVA, Maryland, and DC
Hardcore_Hokie 07/16/24 06:39 PM ET
Those percentages for VT over UNC are the reason UNC has to be sure we
VTCALS72 07/16/24 08:24 PM ET
UNC has hated VT since we hired Bill Dooley away from them
EDGEMAN 07/17/24 06:54 AM ET
Exactly and that is why they want to be sure we don't get in the same/equal
VTCALS72 07/17/24 07:47 AM ET
So, is this actual news or an intentional leak with
Femoyer Hokie 07/16/24 03:35 PM ET
The Big 10 said this repeatedly about Oregon and Washington too.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/16/24 03:35 PM ET
Half shares to Oregon and Washington
TerryD 07/16/24 05:08 PM ET
That would be fun to watch.**
hokieZ71 07/16/24 05:45 PM ET
B10 always wanted Oregon / Washington. Play disinterested for better deal.**
jesuisvtguy 07/16/24 04:37 PM ET
B10 wanted USC and Oregon in the first round, but USC Shalala'ed them into
LonghornHokie 07/16/24 07:11 PM ET
That. And manipulating the market.
Maroon Baboon 07/16/24 07:07 PM ET
I'd be WAY OK with them pulling a SDSU, and begging to
Big12 guy 07/16/24 03:06 PM ET