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hokieZ71
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I don’t want to say conspired.

They’re paying fair market price for the product they’re putting on TV. The better the product, the more they’ll pay. The worse the product, the less they’ll pay. The fact that leagues fall apart when their media payouts are not competitive with other leagues isn’t ESPN or Fox’s problem. And that 48-team breakaway is easier to see than you think. And it’s because of how the realignment process is slowly churning along. The P2 has slowly added 2 teams at a time every few years, slowly shifting the power structure of college football. The ACC is dying now because its death has now been discussed for years upon years. Finebaum, Brett McMurphy, the Athletic, Dellenger, Herbstreit, Cowherd, etc… (but not ESPN per se). When the ACC dies, there’s only one other conference to talk about dying in the future. And the Big XII has already taken its biggest hits, losing its 4 elite football programs. (Who cares if Nebraska is no longer relevant) It just needs to be finished off. Between 2026 and 2029, when you hear for 4 straight years how Kansas, Arizona, Arizona State, Oklahoma St, Miami, Baylor, and whoever else are looking to leave the Big XII, the Big XII is dead as soon as they get snapped up before the next Big XII contract gets signed. At that point the Big XII ceases to be relevant for the CFP, because we all will spend years getting prepped for it by the media, just like the ACC. And because ESPN and Fox won’t pay it enough in media rights to be able to field competitive football teams. Because of fair market value. ** Edited by hokieZ71 at 7/7/2024, 12:17:21 PM ** Edited by hokieZ71 at 7/7/2024, 12:18:54 PM
Posted: 07/07/2024 at 12:15 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Welcome to the ACC Cal…
HOKIEGOBBLE 07/04/24 07:18 AM ET
Lotta towns crushed by our response to Covid
MrBayAreaHokie 07/07/24 10:39 AM ET
The Composition Clause
INSIDE99 07/05/24 10:14 AM ET
Now do Miami, Atlanta, and Syracuse**
LonghornHokie 07/04/24 04:24 PM ET
ESPN Wants to Dodge Responsibility For Destroying The ACC
WarHog38 07/05/24 04:33 PM ET
lmao!! ESPN made $125-140 million in net profit from the ACC in 2023. So if
ancient alien 2018 07/10/24 01:08 AM ET
How Much of That $125-$140 Million is Attributable to FSU & Clemson
WarHog38 07/10/24 04:06 AM ET
Answer to your question on how Clemson and FSU can challenge the
VTCALS72 07/09/24 05:47 PM ET
Makes sense. And I hope the Big XII doesn’t think it’s in the clear.
hokieZ71 07/07/24 07:35 AM ET
Not if the GOR holds.
Truthahn 07/08/24 02:21 PM ET
100% spot on!!!**
ancient alien 2018 07/10/24 01:09 AM ET
Who knows how this plays out, but i am not convinced that any of
Big12 guy 07/07/24 09:19 AM ET
I don’t want to say conspired.
hokieZ71 07/07/24 12:15 PM ET
To die........
2hhoop3 07/07/24 01:45 PM ET
maybe. it might happen like you say. The NCAA settlement being
Big12 guy 07/07/24 01:29 PM ET
I think the networks want the NFL model in college football.
hokieZ71 07/07/24 04:26 PM ET
At that point, the GOR is not even an issue. If there is a
Big12 guy 07/07/24 05:07 PM ET
Exactly. GOR’s just show you the vulnerable leagues.
hokieZ71 07/07/24 05:43 PM ET
Terminology or Semantics Aside
WarHog38 07/07/24 03:38 PM ET
Yes, but who do the networks negotiate with? keep in mind that there
Big12 guy 07/07/24 04:26 PM ET
CBS Will Now Broadcast B1G Football Games
WarHog38 07/07/24 06:33 PM ET
Their response to losing their conference is understandable IMHO. TV deals
Stech 07/04/24 09:30 AM ET
Larry Scott Was Reported to Have Axed that Deal At the Last Moment Due To
WarHog38 07/05/24 05:51 PM ET
Happened like you said.........
2hhoop3 07/05/24 06:16 PM ET
This is the answer. Both ESPN and Texas thought the LHN
Big12 guy 07/05/24 07:47 PM ET
Ya know, I remember you and I discussing over the years
RJHokie 07/05/24 07:12 PM ET
We did have those conversations..........
2hhoop3 07/05/24 07:27 PM ET
Carol Folt is the president of the AAU, another slimy entity. **
HouClone 07/05/24 08:15 PM ET
Slimy? Fairly useless, I think, but I'm not sure how it's "slimy"**
Pylons 07/08/24 11:53 AM ET
One informal definition.......
2hhoop3 07/08/24 12:11 PM ET
I hardly see how that definition fits
Pylons 07/08/24 01:08 PM ET
Folt approving and......
2hhoop3 07/08/24 01:26 PM ET
ok, actually you piqued my interest
Pylons 07/08/24 02:08 PM ET
She as chancellor.....
2hhoop3 07/08/24 02:24 PM ET
A few things
Pylons 07/08/24 03:12 PM ET
You're entitled.......
2hhoop3 07/08/24 03:23 PM ET
ok, tell me what to believe then
Pylons 07/08/24 03:42 PM ET
Nothing I say......
2hhoop3 07/08/24 04:01 PM ET
Why assume what will or won't "satisfy" me?
Pylons 07/08/24 04:28 PM ET
Your previous responses.......
2hhoop3 07/08/24 04:39 PM ET
I don't know any details about Folt and it is pointless to revisit.
Pylons 07/08/24 02:04 PM ET
Corect, " ... AAU, another slimy entity."
Atlee Hokie 07/05/24 09:27 PM ET
Wasn't that before Utah and Colorado? 14 teams with a big gap between.
Truthahn 07/04/24 02:01 PM ET
Interesting to speculate about
Vippie1 07/04/24 11:14 AM ET
Actually, it was Texas Tech and not Texas A&M
Truthahn 07/05/24 10:17 AM ET
Had the PAC 12 not been total imbeciles........
2hhoop3 07/04/24 11:42 AM ET
I've said this about a million times
HokiesACC2004 07/05/24 10:23 PM ET
Or the stooge......
2hhoop3 07/05/24 10:27 PM ET
True, The Pac-12 screwed up royally...
Old Line Hokie 07/05/24 10:09 AM ET
After that bad move, they should really have raided the eight team B12.
Truthahn 07/05/24 10:25 AM ET
Precisely, the XII was supposed to die
obguthr 07/04/24 02:23 PM ET
Amen **
HokiesACC2004 07/05/24 10:24 PM ET
The Xll did die. What we have today is a different conference. **
Big12 guy 07/05/24 07:49 PM ET
Could have been far far far far worse **
HokiesACC2004 07/05/24 10:25 PM ET