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Texas and Oklahoma are arguably the top 5 brands in football.

So is USC. So is ND. what after those? Ohio State, Michigan, then who? Top 10? How would you fill that out? I've got 3 SEC teams of the top of my head. That puts us at 9, but I'll admit, it's subjective. Does Penn state and Nebraska round out the to 10? Would you add FSU to that? Honestly, at this point (Oregon and Washington aside), who REALLY rates a move to those conferences like USC, UCLA, Texas, ans Oklahoma? If we aren't going to a P2 break away from college football as we know it, then we are done expanding the P2. They got all except ND. I'm not implying that there aren't schools in the ACC that could not compete in that group, I'm implying that expansion in the P2 is over.
Posted: 08/18/2023 at 09:18 PM ET
(In response to this post by Marooned)

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MrFantastic! 08/18/23 03:57 PM ET
College football is about rivalries. It would be
HokieDelNorte 08/19/23 03:42 PM ET
They could make the ACC a P3. I'm not sure of the financials.
4x4hokies 08/18/23 10:44 PM ET
They played an ACC schedule during Covid, viewership was not that great.
wwhokie1 08/18/23 05:53 PM ET
Swofford gave them a cupcake schedule, really backfired in a big way!!**
Stech 08/20/23 01:14 PM ET
If they absolutely had to join a conference, would bet they would join...
EDGEMAN 08/18/23 05:15 PM ET
Agreed, but we likely won't pull P2 money anymore as Big10 and SEC grew...
jesuisvtguy 08/18/23 07:31 PM ET
Not feeling it long term
Marooned 08/18/23 10:21 PM ET
Agreed - long term demographics do not favor B1G - it may take decades
VPI_1998 08/20/23 07:09 AM ET
The SEC didn't just get the top two brands from the B12, they
Big12 guy 08/18/23 07:46 PM ET
Not really
Marooned 08/18/23 08:19 PM ET
Texas and Oklahoma are arguably the top 5 brands in football.
Big12 guy 08/18/23 09:18 PM ET
An important distinction - "Brands" vs. performance on the field
VPI_1998 08/20/23 08:19 AM ET
P2 (read advertisers) aren't leaving the Atlanta to DC corridor untouched
RTFC 08/19/23 04:44 PM ET
Probably, but remember, the P2 is Fox and ESPN. They already have
Big12 guy 08/20/23 04:11 PM ET
Not with any teams that, as you said, some could probably compete in the P2
RTFC 08/21/23 12:01 AM ET
Herbstreit says expansion is far from over, I’d go with him & his contacts
Stech 08/19/23 01:41 PM ET