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Just a guess (long)

Probably the ACC is the longest term contract for football media rights ever. This is kind of an ongoing or rolling contract that has had several amendments and I am sure that it had/has several "look ins" or re evaluations along the way, including past 2027. Again just guessing but if ESPN re ups in 2027, which was supposed to be in what 2021, there is already language for a post 2027 "look in" between 2027 and 2035 before the whole thing dies in 2036. If the 2027 look in has a "poison pill" for the ACC, then that still has nothing to do with the GOR until a court somehow establishes some link. Otherwise most likely the ACC has the right to replace the current ESPN deal with some other deal. I don't believe the GOR, although powerful, has already given the ACC the right to just accept the best new offer and that will need approval by the members. But whether it is a new lower deal with ESPN or some other carrier, even a current non conventional one, where is a majority of the ACC who would vote against it? The ACC will be at 18 members in just a month or 2 so where would 10 votes come from to reject the next media deal and kill the GOR? The only way I see 10 votes to essentially kill the ACC is 10 teams having to have a better place to go. If the new PAC is up and running, Stanford and Cal would be no votes as they would leave their temporary harbor in the ACC and return to the PAC. But if the PAC is up and running, they are most likely going to take back the XII's 4 corners and probably BYU as well. IMHO the XII is being paid a premium right now to be a "safe harbor" for teams until all this shakes out so they won't be able to provide significantly more $$$ per team return than the "new" ACC. Why would the XII drop? Because that is the way both Fox and ESPN want it. Even if there was more in the XII would it be enough to make a move? I don't think so. So where would 8 more votes come from? Only those with P2 offers would be no votes and as far as anyone can see right now, the P2 is not taking 8 teams nor will the XII be as attractive as it looks today.
Posted: 04/26/2024 at 12:00 PM ET
(In response to this post by Atlee Hokie)

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Florida AG Files Lawsuit Against ACC Seeking ESPN Contract**
Hokie Bird 04/25/24 10:17 AM ET
question. can ACC simply say, you dont have any jurisdiction NO
DMV Gobbler 04/25/24 08:15 PM ET
I have never read a contract that doesn't define the state law in force
Vienna_Hokie 04/26/24 07:24 AM ET
Since it is ESPN CT is the most likely state**
VT ChemE 1986 04/26/24 10:56 AM ET
Talking about the GOR contract since that's the one FSU is a party to
Vienna_Hokie 04/26/24 12:44 PM ET
After the dozens of tourism dollars Big Swoff putting the ACCCG there got
Hokie 04 04/25/24 07:59 PM ET
Be interesting
DMV Gobbler 04/25/24 05:30 PM ET
If schools didn't know about the upcoming "look in", what else is hidden
wwhokie1 04/25/24 02:36 PM ET
If they didn’t read the contract, whose fault is that?
RJHokie 04/25/24 02:43 PM ET
Did any of the schools actually sign the contract?
wwhokie1 04/25/24 02:54 PM ET
They did not. Only GOR.**
HOO86 04/25/24 06:27 PM ET
Good points.
RJHokie 04/25/24 03:06 PM ET
Lots of questions and convoluted......
2hhoop3 04/25/24 06:53 PM ET
I believe trade secrets detailed in contracts are not required to
RJHokie 04/25/24 07:00 PM ET
Whether the GOR is tied to the one media contract is TBD
VTCALS72 04/25/24 06:44 PM ET
ESPN was granted the TV contract in its entirety by the conference.
RJHokie 04/25/24 06:50 PM ET
By the Conference using the authority granted the Conference
VTCALS72 04/25/24 06:54 PM ET
Correct. **
RJHokie 04/25/24 07:00 PM ET
There's a lot of confusion over the whole thing. Why would the schools
reestuart 04/25/24 03:55 PM ET
You're absolutely right, each school should be allowed copies of those
wwhokie1 04/25/24 03:14 PM ET
Should is not a legal concept. As a good partner, yes they should
Vienna_Hokie 04/26/24 10:00 AM ET
FSU and Clemson must know there is something in the media rights agreement
Millpoint 04/25/24 01:35 PM ET
FSU seems especially bad at poker, so I doubt it**
MrBayAreaHokie 04/26/24 08:30 AM ET
I’d be more concerned about Clemson. **
Millpoint 04/26/24 01:07 PM ET
kinda young AD at Clemson
MrBayAreaHokie 04/26/24 01:35 PM ET
So far Clemson.......
2hhoop3 04/26/24 01:17 PM ET
Or they know the GOR is going to be a tough nut to crack and are
VTCALS72 04/25/24 06:55 PM ET
If they "know".....
2hhoop3 04/25/24 01:41 PM ET
Probably caveats in the contract prohibiting disclosure to the
RJHokie 04/25/24 02:46 PM ET
Just felony charges for the ESPN contract
HOO86 04/25/24 06:32 PM ET
I would think the schools authorized the conference to enter into the
RJHokie 04/25/24 06:37 PM ET
You would be wrong about having a copy.
Atlee Hokie 04/25/24 09:19 PM ET
They are able to go to Charlotte and review it.
HOO86 04/25/24 06:41 PM ET
Someone needs to send in the "Plumbers",**
Atlee Hokie 04/25/24 09:22 PM ET
I agree with both you and @Millpoint. ......
2hhoop3 04/25/24 02:59 PM ET
Agree.
RJHokie 04/25/24 03:08 PM ET
I believe it’s because they don’t have a copy of the contract
Millpoint 04/25/24 02:12 PM ET
Agree. If they had it, it would have been leaked "anonymously" by now
Tombo 04/25/24 06:59 PM ET
not anonymously; Moody would do it outright and force the ACC/ESPN to sue
daveinop 04/25/24 07:39 PM ET
They can go read it.**
Minden Hokie 04/25/24 02:33 PM ET
I find it so hard to believe they have to sue to see the contract.**
reestuart 04/25/24 01:06 PM ET
they don't; and they've seen it already. Moody's complaint should
daveinop 04/25/24 07:34 PM ET
What I want is a definitive answer on the 2027 question.
Atlee Hokie 04/25/24 09:27 PM ET
Just a guess (long)
VTCALS72 04/26/24 12:00 PM ET
I would not assume that "Only those with P2 offers would be no votes" is
VTHokie2000 04/26/24 12:57 PM ET
Yeah, it seems like that should be easy to get a straight answer.**
reestuart 04/26/24 09:14 AM ET
Throwing out most of the big IFs, what real value is it to any place
VTCALS72 04/25/24 12:45 PM ET
FSU needs some clarity before July 1 - so the pressure is on.
Big12 guy 04/25/24 12:59 PM ET
$500 million dollars - at least produce the contract that says so
INSIDE99 04/25/24 12:06 PM ET
ACC hasn't asked for a penny
daveinop 04/25/24 07:44 PM ET
The ACC is not asking FSU for that money, FSU agreed to pay that money
Vienna_Hokie 04/25/24 02:19 PM ET
Show me the contract
INSIDE99 04/25/24 02:25 PM ET
Does the ESPN media deal lock any team into that?
VTCALS72 04/25/24 06:51 PM ET
FSU is not party to the contract with ESPN
HOO86 04/25/24 06:24 PM ET
real example. I had a contract with a FL gov agency
daveinop 04/25/24 08:19 PM ET
Interesting.
RJHokie 04/25/24 06:33 PM ET
The ESPN contract is not where FSU agreed to pay the money, the GOR is
Vienna_Hokie 04/25/24 02:43 PM ET
GOR interpretations
INSIDE99 04/25/24 06:59 PM ET
Until a court says the ACC needed to go back to the individuals to get
VTCALS72 04/27/24 06:29 PM ET
They read the contract
Minden Hokie 04/25/24 02:37 PM ET
I'd like to read that contract too. It would be very interesting. **
Big12 guy 04/25/24 12:00 PM ET
Isn’t that ESPN contract already requested under the FSU suit?
HokieAl 04/25/24 11:30 AM ET
From the article it looks like that request was dismissed, hence the AG ask
tupton79 04/25/24 12:22 PM ET
The motion to seal
INSIDE99 04/25/24 12:33 PM ET
One hand doesn’t know what the other is doing…..**
RJHokie 04/25/24 11:32 AM ET