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It has been litigated to death on this board that it's not an if,

but a when. Will there be offers to the P2 for some? Yes, but it's the when that seem to be this issue. i have no intention of reopening the GOR can of worms, but the left behinds are looking at the PAC4, and will try to solidify their future now - or at least they should. I have said that the B12 knows they will not be a P2, but it's pretty strong group of the left behinds, that is for sure. Our reality. The ACC will not comand $50M a year today, or enough for the top teams to stay if there is an invite to the SEC or BIG. College football needs a very strong ACC if we even have a chance to avoid a break away in football. There just don't seem to be many obvious answers. The ACCN is both the answer, and the poison pill - I don't know which yet. By not having one, the B12 was able to have FOX and ESPN bid on their content. If we had a network run by ESPN, I think we would have had a lower contract. It's reported that Amazon is in negotiations with Disney/ESPN. That may bring more money, but I'm not at all convinced that money would not go to the B12 or ACC for that matter.
Posted: 08/25/2023 at 12:43 PM ET
(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

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The rumors on ACC expansion with Stanford, Cal, and SMU are all
Big12 guy • 08/25/23 11:43 AM ET
It desparation, but does it make matters worse for the ACC if the schools
IB4TECH • 08/25/23 04:23 PM ET
If the reality is that the ACC schools are stuck together until 2036. maybe
TDVick • 08/25/23 10:19 PM ET
how can anyone from the B12 talk smack?
MrBayAreaHokie • 08/25/23 01:46 PM ET
That just happens to make more money**
xx97 • 08/25/23 10:20 PM ET
Fiction from new poster cheering Goofy U on!**
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 10:53 PM ET
Big 12 makes $44 million per school. ACC $39 million.
xx97 • 08/25/23 11:33 PM ET
Foul on you!! 🤫Liar liar pants on fire! 🥱
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/26/23 07:42 AM ET
We're talking average for the conference. Not variations.
xx97 • 08/26/23 05:05 PM ET
🤣🤣excellent !!**
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 02:22 PM ET
He's not a smack talker.
hokieZ71 • 08/25/23 02:12 PM ET
Nah, there is a bit of smack talk in it if we are perceiving it that way
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 02:26 PM ET
That's the nature of the game, though. He probably endures more than we do
hokieZ71 • 08/25/23 02:28 PM ET
But we’re not doing it at a B12 board.
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 02:38 PM ET
That's why I made my initial comment.
hokieZ71 • 08/25/23 02:59 PM ET
Yes, absolutely! 👍
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 04:05 PM ET
Of course we do
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 02:32 PM ET
Not talking smack, sorry you take it that way. If i came on here with a
Big12 guy • 08/25/23 01:52 PM ET
I think we can be equal opportunity smack accusers !!
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 02:28 PM ET
Let’s talk about the B12 schools that are really not that good…
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 01:34 PM ET
That would beat VT like a rented mule?
xx97 • 08/25/23 10:21 PM ET
Who would beat VT like a rented Mule? I’m about to do that to you.
Hardcore_Hokie • 08/26/23 11:38 PM ET
Whoa, Nellie! I drink bourbon & I know stuff, especially mules…
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 10:42 PM ET
Getting into Texas and California is probably a good idea.
Maroon Baboon • 08/25/23 01:31 PM ET
It would only happen because of economic and competitive viability.
hokieZ71 • 08/25/23 12:41 PM ET
ACC is tied with B1G for second most CFP Entries. Only behind SEC.
HOO86 • 08/25/23 12:02 PM ET
Floundering only in the sense of the disparity in the media contracts and
Big12 guy • 08/25/23 12:06 PM ET
The ACC has so many factions, small private schools, big football schools,
TDVick • 08/26/23 02:41 AM ET
Everyone not named......
2hhoop3 • 08/25/23 12:21 PM ET
Yormark is a visionary
Marooned • 08/25/23 08:01 PM ET
This guy has played his hand SO MUCH better than these ACC presidents who
TDVick • 08/26/23 01:24 AM ET
BY has been very adept at managing the TV partners. Fox paid pro rata for
33laszlo99 • 08/25/23 10:07 PM ET
How do you know......
2hhoop3 • 08/25/23 10:47 PM ET
It is not known, as you say. This is not sworn testimony I am offering.
33laszlo99 • 08/26/23 12:02 PM ET
It does not torture me.....
2hhoop3 • 08/26/23 12:34 PM ET
Are you seriously suggesting that I need to defend my opinions to you?
33laszlo99 • 08/26/23 01:32 PM ET
I try not to post.....
2hhoop3 • 08/26/23 01:51 PM ET
I think you are on to something here. The Networks are shuffling the deck,
Big12 guy • 08/26/23 09:05 AM ET
Could other conferences have NOT made similar agreements with the TV
TDVick • 08/26/23 01:44 AM ET
Maybe you can share.....
2hhoop3 • 08/26/23 10:00 AM ET
My guess is he is finding out the value first. These additions look pretty
TDVick • 08/26/23 11:24 AM ET
I missed in your reply.....
2hhoop3 • 08/26/23 11:48 AM ET
I'll drop it. The crystal ball can get cloudy sometimes.
TDVick • 08/26/23 11:50 AM ET
Careful TDVick. The Opinion Police are on patrol.**
33laszlo99 • 08/26/23 12:10 PM ET
It would appear.....
2hhoop3 • 08/26/23 01:56 PM ET
He has made.....
2hhoop3 • 08/25/23 08:32 PM ET
Exactly
VaTechHokiesACC • 08/25/23 02:42 PM ET
Better to be a tall midget than a dead midget or a shorter midget? No? The
TDVick • 08/26/23 01:50 AM ET
I do not believe.....
2hhoop3 • 08/25/23 02:50 PM ET
It has been litigated to death on this board that it's not an if, ◄
Big12 guy • 08/25/23 12:43 PM ET
At this point I would almost rather VT join the B12 and play Okie State
TDVick • 08/26/23 01:56 AM ET
It most certainly is....
2hhoop3 • 08/25/23 01:28 PM ET
ACC in a touch spot, they are criticized either way,
hokiesrule98 • 08/25/23 11:49 AM ET
I don't think Stanford or Cal being in the conference will prevent
Big12 guy • 08/25/23 11:57 AM ET
UConn is a fail for football **
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 01:05 PM ET
If they don't get their FB in a "P" conference soon, they will have to
33laszlo99 • 08/25/23 10:19 PM ET
Today, what about 13 years from now? Those basketball units add up too. **
Big12 guy • 08/25/23 01:19 PM ET
The Big East already tried with UConn, it’s not happening…
BROman Hokie • 08/25/23 04:39 PM ET
I think you need a Carolina presence also…so I’ll throw in
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 01:44 PM ET
Will also take the 2 Arizona schools
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 01:41 PM ET
However, if B12 wants to be expand their footprint…I’ll trade ya
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 01:38 PM ET
Fail again…I’ve heard this about UConn for 20 years…
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 01:32 PM ET
I would have liked them in the B12. I think the basketball content is
Big12 guy • 08/25/23 01:47 PM ET
Take them, keep over expanding **
VaTechHokiesACC • 08/25/23 02:40 PM ET
Why doesn’t the big 12 get UCONN?**
HOKIEGOBBLE • 08/25/23 02:35 PM ET
This is strictly about increasing Money and Staying Competitive
Sunsetunderground • 08/25/23 12:31 PM ET
Having a better schedule slate with the SAME amount of money is an
TDVick • 08/26/23 02:50 AM ET
I've been trying to find data on cable subscribers per state. Can't do it.
33laszlo99 • 08/25/23 06:22 PM ET
Right. A short term gain with no future. I do not mean to be disrespectful,
Big12 guy • 08/25/23 12:49 PM ET