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I understand your position, as you would like to see the ACC only add teams

that enhance football, and more importantly, more money. You are not wrong, but there might be a different way of looking at this that isn't wrong either. I know it's a tough pill to swallow, but the ACC will not be a P2. The BIG and SEC already have all but a handful of the blue blood top football programs. That being said, the ACC needs to position itself to survive the next set of dominos. We don't know if all of the mag 7 schools have an invite to the P2 or not. Based on the structure of the contracts, we may not know until the SEC or BIG get close to the end of their current negotiated contracts. The only options for any school in the ACC is to get invited to the P2, or stay and make the ACC conference as strong as possible - for survival. I have this opinion because in the B12, Texas wouldn't let the B12 invite Cincy and Louisville when they were available. They were against expansion unless it brought them more money and prestige. Then they left their conference mates in the dust. The same thing happened to the PAC when ALL of the B12 teams were available, looking for a landing spot. The football powers did not want to expand, and the academic elites did not want any lowly B12 schools in their conference. You guys are approaching this like Texas and the PAC, and it will not end well for those not invited to the P2. The non mag 7 sees this, and may just outvote all the schools that have applied to the P2. They want to make the ACC a landing spot, and not end up like the PAC, Big East, SWC, and the near death B12 of 2 years ago. ** Edited by Big12 guy at 8/8/2023, 8:52:06 AM
Posted: 08/08/2023 at 08:18 AM ET
(In response to this post by Vienna_Hokie)

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Is the Stanford-Cal consideration nothing more than peer institutions
Maroon Baboon 08/07/23 07:08 PM ET
there is no such thing as collegiality anymore with respect to expansion
HokieToph 08/07/23 08:20 PM ET
Both schools are very rich. That doesn't hurt.**
HokiePail 08/07/23 07:56 PM ET
It doesn’t help their football teams be competitive**
HokieJamie 08/07/23 10:11 PM ET
Are they going to give there money to us?**
Jasonh 08/07/23 09:00 PM ET
Yep. This plus survival of the ACC.
HokieAl 08/07/23 07:45 PM ET
We don't need more members if they don't add more than they take
Vienna_Hokie 08/07/23 09:59 PM ET
Perception becomes reality
4x4hokies 08/07/23 08:00 PM ET
If it happened, almost certainly would include 2 more West Coast schools
WestyHokie 08/07/23 07:37 PM ET
That's why the B1G took four.
HOO86 08/07/23 07:43 PM ET
Maybe the ACC could somehow snag the Pac12's Rose Bowl tie-in out of this.
LonghornHokie 08/07/23 08:05 PM ET
The Rose Bowl is a permanent CFP game now. No more tie-ins**
hokie_jayhawk 08/07/23 09:10 PM ET
Ah. Hadn't heard that.**
LonghornHokie 08/07/23 09:21 PM ET
The BiG took 4 because they thought they'd lose them. ACC was offering 7**
4x4hokies 08/07/23 07:48 PM ET
If the ACC was offering 7, that makes me feel better about them.
Maroon Baboon 08/07/23 08:10 PM ET
If that's the case, then I say Bravo to the old-order ACC. When it all
VTBoar 08/07/23 07:25 PM ET
The ACC and Big 10 are the only two athletic conferences that make sense
Big12 guy 08/07/23 07:38 PM ET
ACC does not male sense in any way shape or form**
Vienna_Hokie 08/07/23 10:01 PM ET
I understand your position, as you would like to see the ACC only add teams
Big12 guy 08/08/23 08:18 AM ET
Expanding that dies nit increase per team payout ensures the end
Vienna_Hokie 08/08/23 04:00 PM ET