The ACC is not going to remain #3.
I think if you ask anyone besides Jim Phillips, or the dead weight members of the ACC, the ACC is not considered #3. Yeah, the ACC schools might be getting 2 million dollars a year more than the B12 schools, but nobody seriously thinks the ACC is a better football conference than the B12.
For a decade now, the ACC has been the biggest running joke in college sports. There is no positive coverage of the ACC. Disney won't put them on actual legacy broadcast channels. Their other college football brand "just means more." Disney pays the ACC half what the SEC gets paid. And then we get to the punditry. If you're in the ACC, you can't win. Oh, you're in the ACC and win all your games? It's because all the other teams in the conference suck. You're in the ACC and lose all your games? It's because you're another ACC team that sucks. That's only going to get worse now, too, because the CFP committee balked and put SMU into the CFP over Alabama, and SMU proceeded to pee down its leg and roll right over. Perception, of course, becomes reality. The losses pile up. And, the best part is that the stigma against the ACC is already bleeding over into basketball, the only thing the ACC had going for it at all. Now, ACC basketball sucks too.
To the extent that being #3 even matters, it's all temporary, at best. The death clock for the ACC is sitting at about 10 minute to midnight because when the current GOR expires, FSU, Clemson, Miami, VT, and UNC are definitely not going to sign another GOR, because why would they? Those brands hold the power over the ACC now, not the other way around. Things have changed. Even if you ignore the financials, SMU is now in the ACC, and who wants to rub stink all over their brand by being in a conference with SMU? Does anyone think that FSU, Clemson, and UNC are going to grant their media rights to the idiot that engineered SMU to the ACC, or flying the volleyball team from the upstate South Carolina to Palo Alto for a conference game?
No, they won't, and if they won't, then ACC "membership" basically becomes meaningless, and that will be that.
** Edited by Baltimore_Hokie at 1/14/2025, 3:16:26 PM
Thread Replies (35)
What's going on with the ESPN/ACC renewal?
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jan 13, 2025 at 09:13 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
•
01/13/25 09:13 PM ET
There is zero chance Disney decides not to renew the ACC contract.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 14, 2025 at 10:34 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
01/14/25 10:34 AM ET
Yes, I believe Disney will definitely renew.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jan 14, 2025 at 01:02 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
•
01/14/25 01:02 PM ET
The ACC is not going to remain #3.
◄
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 14, 2025 at 03:15 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
01/14/25 03:15 PM ET
The ACC is the Ottoman Empire c. 1900.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jan 15, 2025 at 04:33 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
•
01/15/25 04:33 PM ET
Agree 100%. Anyone that argues otherwise-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 15, 2025 at 04:55 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
01/15/25 04:55 PM ET
Disagree. Fantasy worst case scenario. 1 among many scenarios good and bad.**
-- VTinSC
Jan 15, 2025 at 10:06 AM ET
VTinSC
•
01/15/25 10:06 AM ET
That's a very nice opinion.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 15, 2025 at 12:04 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
01/15/25 12:04 PM ET
It’s all spec and with things ongoing on fb world I would not speculate at
-- VTinSC
Jan 15, 2025 at 01:34 PM ET
VTinSC
•
01/15/25 01:34 PM ET
Disagree but I will explain my view later. **
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jan 14, 2025 at 07:22 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
•
01/14/25 07:22 PM ET
I look forward to reading your thoughts.**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 15, 2025 at 12:11 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
01/15/25 12:11 PM ET
Started a new thread.**
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jan 15, 2025 at 01:59 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
•
01/15/25 01:59 PM ET
I agree that there will not be a clear #3 football conference with
-- Big12 guy
Jan 14, 2025 at 04:36 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
01/14/25 04:36 PM ET
A couple thoughts in response:
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 14, 2025 at 05:07 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
01/14/25 05:07 PM ET
Love, love, love all the SMU hate...!!!!
-- SMU Pony
Jan 15, 2025 at 01:21 AM ET
SMU Pony
•
01/15/25 01:21 AM ET
You're such an idiot, that this all-time idiot post required two responses.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 15, 2025 at 12:36 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
01/15/25 12:36 PM ET
Ah, the point about travel, the true tell of a troll...
-- SMU Pony
Jan 15, 2025 at 08:52 PM ET
SMU Pony
•
01/15/25 08:52 PM ET
You can't read, and even if you could, you can't think.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 16, 2025 at 10:11 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
01/16/25 10:11 AM ET
SMU might be in the ACC to stay, but I assure you a lot of programs aren't.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 15, 2025 at 12:10 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
01/15/25 12:10 PM ET
To add to your #3, it's also self serving for the ACC staff
-- HokieAl
Jan 14, 2025 at 05:32 PM ET
HokieAl
•
01/14/25 05:32 PM ET
I firmly believe that Disney/ESPN are actively trying to break the ACC up-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 14, 2025 at 05:58 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
01/14/25 05:58 PM ET
Good response. Lets go backwards on your points.
-- Big12 guy
Jan 14, 2025 at 05:28 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
01/14/25 05:28 PM ET
More thoughts in response:
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jan 14, 2025 at 05:56 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
•
01/14/25 05:56 PM ET
Why is there so little reporting on an issue this big?
-- 33laszlo99
Jan 14, 2025 at 12:38 AM ET
33laszlo99
•
01/14/25 12:38 AM ET
What would you expect to hear reported?
-- Pylons
Jan 14, 2025 at 05:20 PM ET
Pylons
•
01/14/25 05:20 PM ET
All true. But I see endless reports about coaching changes, PAC/MWC
-- 33laszlo99
Jan 14, 2025 at 09:03 PM ET
33laszlo99
•
01/14/25 09:03 PM ET
After the endless speculation about ESPN dropping the ACC
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jan 15, 2025 at 12:49 AM ET
RandomAsianGuy
•
01/15/25 12:49 AM ET
I guess it's not just a simple renewal.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jan 14, 2025 at 12:58 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
•
01/14/25 12:58 PM ET
What will The ACC offer in return? ESPN doesn't have to pay a penny more.
-- 33laszlo99
Jan 15, 2025 at 11:10 AM ET
33laszlo99
•
01/15/25 11:10 AM ET
Don't forget that there are negotiations about uneven distributions. **
-- Big12 guy
Jan 14, 2025 at 04:54 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
01/14/25 04:54 PM ET
That’s an ACC internal matter. **
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jan 14, 2025 at 07:17 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
•
01/14/25 07:17 PM ET
I agreee, their is a business case for the ACC
-- 1947Sunbowl
Jan 13, 2025 at 11:26 PM ET
1947Sunbowl
•
01/13/25 11:26 PM ET
Why is #3 so important to you? It doesn't even come close to
-- Big12 guy
Jan 14, 2025 at 05:01 PM ET
Big12 guy
•
01/14/25 05:01 PM ET
Because the ACC will need to backfil with certain B12 schools
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jan 14, 2025 at 07:20 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
•
01/14/25 07:20 PM ET