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hokieZ71
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I’m starting to see a path for all 4 VA/NC schools to go to the SEC.

I think the fact that the SEC does not want either FSU or Clemson in its league combined with ESPN not wanting to lose them to Fox and the Big Ten is a big factor. So, FSU and Clemson could start this all off by heading to the Big XII with enough media rights $$ coming from ESPN to make it happen. (With FSU and Clemson added to the Big XII’s catalog of weekly football matchups, the Big XII is now extremely undervalued.) ***oh, The Big XII will foot the bill for their ACC buyouts through private equity funding*** The biggest brand in the ACC - that being UNC - then goes to the SEC along with NC State, UVA and VT. This keeps UNC totally under ESPN’s control. This also puts the SEC at 20 members with the SEC now truly being a Southeast Conference. With FSU and Clemson already going to the Big XII, ESPN has now added quality content to the two leagues it has a financial stake in. The B1G could be content with adding AAU schools Miami and GT to their catalog of National TV markets and also get a premier football brand on the east coast to add to Penn State. The Big XII finally finishes things off by adding Louisville and Pitt and strengthening is East coast presence. The 3 power football leagues now stand at 20 Schools a piece. They divide the ACC’s 17% stake in the CFP between them, 9% would go to the Big XII (the Big XII did add all of the ACC’s recent playoff teams), and 4% each for the SEC and B1G. So the SEC and B1G would receive 33% of the CFP money while the B12 would receive 24%. The G5 (G6?) and ND would still get their 10%. The ACC finishes its conversion to an elite private school-led, basketball and Olympic sports-centric athletic conference with enough exit fee cash to keep it going for a long time. Maybe the ACC adds UConn and Tulane to get to 9 football members and 10 all sports members. Good for them.
Posted: 07/11/2024 at 10:32 AM ET
(In response to this post by 1947Sunbowl)

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Could the Josh Pate thing be this? ND and the ACC.
Maroon Baboon 07/11/24 12:18 AM ET
ND isn't joining the ACC in football.
EDGEMAN 07/11/24 10:26 AM ET
What is everyone's fascination with divisions?
jesuisvtguy 07/11/24 10:08 AM ET
The P2 pretty much has to. Too big a geographic footprint
VTCALS72 07/11/24 12:12 PM ET
Divisions make sense if Notre Dame wants them.
Maroon Baboon 07/11/24 10:41 AM ET
SEC is Now Dropping Divisions With 16 Members / EDIT
WarHog38 07/11/24 03:49 PM ET
i loathe divisions for one simple reason
MrBayAreaHokie 07/11/24 10:20 AM ET
Agree - getting rid of the divisions is a better way to match up the 2 best
VPI_1998 07/11/24 12:20 PM ET
No it’s not ND.
hokieZ71 07/11/24 09:08 AM ET
FSU doesn't own their TV rights. That's impossible **
SpeakToDamien 07/11/24 11:29 AM ET
They can’t announce they are leaving?
hokieZ71 07/11/24 01:58 PM ET
No one really knows.......
2hhoop3 07/11/24 02:10 PM ET
The contraction could be a mass exodus or
Victor Tango 07/11/24 09:01 AM ET
I kept an attendance analysis covering 2018 through 2022
VTCALS72 07/11/24 12:30 PM ET
Must not have ever read Faulkner. The SEC opinion of UVA aint that great. **
jdkhokie 07/11/24 11:43 AM ET
Include Calford and Duke
obguthr 07/11/24 11:31 AM ET
Wow. I wasn't thinking about the A&M angle. What if ESPN worked a deal that
Maroon Baboon 07/11/24 10:53 AM ET
A&M will never cede the SEC to UT unless it's for the B1G.
neworleanshoo 07/11/24 07:04 PM ET
I kept hearing that aTm wants to "get away from Texas", that's why they
VPI_1998 07/12/24 05:59 AM ET
If TAMU wants to get away from Texas and get under Texas' skin, then a move
VTHokie2000 07/12/24 11:24 AM ET
Uva will only go if vt goes with them
1947Sunbowl 07/11/24 09:35 AM ET
I’m starting to see a path for all 4 VA/NC schools to go to the SEC.
hokieZ71 07/11/24 10:32 AM ET
UNC won't want a deal that includes VT
El Paso Hokie 07/12/24 02:45 PM ET
I believe this to be true
VTCALS72 07/12/24 08:58 PM ET
It's all going to work out.......
2hhoop3 07/12/24 09:41 PM ET
I still don't think the VA/NC markets are strong enough to warrant 2 teams
HokieNoVA 07/11/24 06:55 PM ET
I don’t know. I feel like the SEC might not want elite football teams
hokieZ71 07/11/24 08:21 PM ET
It is not unreasonable.......
2hhoop3 07/11/24 08:18 PM ET
The MS and TN schools likely have the benefit of being a founding member in
VTHokie2000 07/11/24 09:31 PM ET
All true........
2hhoop3 07/12/24 01:43 AM ET
Given it isn't clear if the way the carriage fee is calculated is in
VTHokie2000 07/12/24 11:16 AM ET
This actually makes sense on a number of levels, which of course rules it
VPI_1998 07/11/24 01:04 PM ET
FSU/Clemson to XII and Miami/GT to B1G?
obguthr 07/11/24 12:04 PM ET
If only 1 VA school receives an invitation to the P2 table, then it would
VTHokie2000 07/11/24 10:20 AM ET
Well this affects millions of dollars to fhe local economy
1947Sunbowl 07/14/24 05:51 PM ET
And having 0 schools from the state won't have a bigger financial impact?
VTHokie2000 07/15/24 12:34 PM ET
You read me wrong with this
1947Sunbowl 07/16/24 07:20 AM ET
My point was that both schools may not receive an invitation though.
VTHokie2000 07/16/24 01:23 PM ET
Interesting my question is notre dame
1947Sunbowl 07/11/24 07:42 AM ET
Since the ACC disbanded the divisions, why would they want to go back to it
VTHokie2000 07/11/24 01:45 AM ET
The ACC-ND deal was in 2013. Much has changed since then.
Maroon Baboon 07/11/24 02:53 AM ET
Yes, there are more incentives now than in 2013. However, I believe most
VTHokie2000 07/11/24 06:44 AM ET
Probably not. But Notre Dame's propensity to despise the Big Ten can't be
Maroon Baboon 07/11/24 08:51 AM ET
I wouldn't characterize it as a disliking of B1G
obguthr 07/11/24 10:57 AM ET
It is both
TerryD 07/11/24 10:59 AM ET
Which is ironic given Notre Dame's ice hockey is a member of the Big Ten.**
VTHokie2000 07/11/24 10:22 AM ET
Swarbrick's Folly
TerryD 07/11/24 10:58 AM ET
True, but the move does at least open the door for further discussions at
VTHokie2000 07/11/24 11:00 AM ET
Why?
TerryD 07/11/24 02:02 PM ET
Johns Hopkins is in a different situation than Notre Dame because it has
VTHokie2000 07/11/24 02:19 PM ET
As far as I know....
TerryD 07/12/24 08:31 AM ET
I haven't been able to find any news articles or even message boards to
VTHokie2000 07/12/24 11:05 AM ET
I support Johns Hopkins in their moves to join the Big Ten in all sports
TerryD 07/12/24 01:37 PM ET
That assume they have any desire to move up from DIII. So far I haven't
VTHokie2000 07/12/24 03:41 PM ET
What I mean is that ND to the Big Ten ....
TerryD 07/11/24 02:59 PM ET
I disagree about the potential significance because Notre Dame is
VTHokie2000 07/11/24 03:49 PM ET
ND has zero playoff access risk
TerryD 07/11/24 07:10 PM ET
Given the NCAA re-org that is going on right now, I am not sure anyone can
VTHokie2000 07/11/24 07:52 PM ET