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I guess the PAC technically survived as a conference,

but lost 10 of their 12 members and their ESPN TV contract. They have a scheduling agreement, but it is with a G5 conference. The PAC is still here in name only as their TV partners, coaches, players, donors, etc. abandon the sinking ship. I felt better about the ACC’s future before the revelation of the ESPN’s unilateral contract option and the FSU and Clemson’s lawsuits. Even the most optimistic person has to be somewhat concerned that ESPN hasn’t announced or even made known their desire to extend the ACC contract as the February 2025 deadline fast approaches. Two of the biggest factors in conference realignment at this time and not often acknowledged are the unfavorable media rights market and ESPN’s dwindling profitability. It’s possible that the ACC can survive even if members start leaving just like the PAC did, but schools that have options won’t hang around if the ESPN contract is not extended or reduced and be part of whatever the conference then becomes. Fans should be thankful that there is a greater chance than not that VT will have options.
Link: Big 12 commissioner says conference ‘lucky’ to land ‘last big media deal’
Posted: 04/19/2024 at 11:37 AM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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🐓 or 🥚 poll: PAC gone, B12 a *shell of what it used to b, ACC FSU Clemson
Stech • 04/17/24 09:43 PM ET
Athletic Conferences have been changing membership ever since they were
WBGV • 04/18/24 11:16 AM ET
I don’t see why the ACC can’t survive if B12 lost 5 top football schools.
Stech • 04/18/24 02:10 PM ET
I guess the PAC technically survived as a conference, ◄
WBGV • 04/19/24 11:37 AM ET
I don't consider the PAC surviving, I do consider the B12 surviving with 5
Stech • 04/19/24 12:18 PM ET
Difference is that the Big 12 added really good schools, power worthy.
HouClone • 04/19/24 02:29 PM ET
Memphis used to be Memphis State, they are a State school, they have
Stech • 04/19/24 03:44 PM ET
The PAC 12 defectors.......
2hhoop3 • 04/19/24 02:36 PM ET
The Big 12 survived because they were able to get better TV media rights
WBGV • 04/19/24 01:00 PM ET
ESPN has lost the B1G and B12 🏀, so they have room for tier 2 too.
Stech • 04/19/24 01:39 PM ET
The Big 12 reached a six-year extension with ESPN and Fox in October 2022.
WBGV • 04/19/24 03:08 PM ET
You mean the same reason Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Missouri
Stech • 04/19/24 03:25 PM ET
I agree **
HokiesACC2004 • 04/19/24 10:09 AM ET
I agree. if the media contract is plus or minus the B12 contract,
Big12 guy • 04/18/24 04:51 PM ET
Louisville and Pitt would still be attractive to the XII.
obguthr • 04/19/24 05:41 AM ET
The ACC could absolutely survive a Mag 7 exodus. They have to really want
33laszlo99 • 04/18/24 02:26 PM ET
The ACC will make it, but it won't be the ACC anymore
Tailgate Guru • 04/18/24 02:25 PM ET
All of it frankly. but throw in E. NCAA incompetence. **
VT Pez4Life • 04/18/24 10:41 AM ET
A. Believe the networks have been colluding to make an NFL lite type...
kt22hokie • 04/18/24 10:13 AM ET
D. Fans, viewers and legalized gambling
Vienna_Hokie • 04/18/24 10:05 AM ET
Agreed, but I would also add rich fans with weird priorities...
MP4VT2004 • 04/19/24 06:45 PM ET
D) The ACC and CFA (it all goes back decades)
HokieAl • 04/18/24 09:08 AM ET
NCAA**
CrystalCoveHokie • 04/18/24 09:03 AM ET
A and C dwarf anything else.**
VTCALS72 • 04/18/24 08:41 AM ET
I'm with Atlee...I vote E) All of the above**
EDGEMAN • 04/18/24 06:34 AM ET
Networks
obguthr • 04/18/24 06:23 AM ET
D. SCOTUS case (NCAA vs. U. of Oklahoma) and conference championship games
Maroon Baboon • 04/18/24 12:28 AM ET
Stiney 😜**
MrBayAreaHokie • 04/17/24 11:34 PM ET
A and b
DMV Gobbler • 04/17/24 11:02 PM ET
E) All the above**
Atlee Hokie • 04/17/24 10:31 PM ET
D - Greed**
RJHokie • 04/17/24 09:46 PM ET
I'd add power too.
Old Line Hokie • 04/18/24 10:09 AM ET
Agree!**
RJHokie • 04/18/24 04:52 PM ET
Recency bias. The original greed was ACC stealing from Big East
HokieAl • 04/18/24 10:41 AM ET
The original greed was the Big East excluding PSU
Tailgate Guru • 04/18/24 02:28 PM ET
A conference of Eastern indys
mancunian • 04/18/24 03:13 PM ET
Big 8 raided the SWC way before that
Truthahn • 04/18/24 12:16 PM ET
I admit that my knowledge of the SWC is limited
HokieAl • 04/18/24 12:58 PM ET
Once Arkansas left the entire
mancunian • 04/18/24 02:06 PM ET
And Arkansas hasn't had a rival since. Money and stability
HouClone • 04/18/24 02:41 PM ET
I sorta liked the old SWC.
mancunian • 04/18/24 02:47 PM ET
Who is the biggest leader in greediness in your mind?**
Stech • 04/17/24 09:49 PM ET
Texass**
RJHokie • 04/17/24 09:51 PM ET
Why do you say that?**
Stech • 04/17/24 09:52 PM ET
They never have enough money and rarely win national championships
RJHokie • 04/17/24 09:55 PM ET
The "best" answer !**
FLKEYSHOKIE • 04/17/24 09:47 PM ET
Same to you, who is the biggest leader in greediness?**
Stech • 04/17/24 09:51 PM ET
Very close between the SEC and Big 10 Conferences !**
FLKEYSHOKIE • 04/17/24 10:01 PM ET