The ACC will make it, but it won't be the ACC anymore
The Big 12 is no longer the Big 12. It's a bunch of schools that compete as the Big 12. The Big 12 was the Big 8, meaning Oklahoma, Nebraska and others, plus Texas, Texas A&M and others. That league is gone. In fairness, the reconstituted Big 12 is a pretty good league whose greatest attribute might be that no one sucks, no one is a blue blood and no one is Texas.
The ACC brand will survive whatever happens next, unless there is a combination of some sort with the Big 12 and the Pac 2 - as there probably should be. But with no Maryland, no North Carolina, no Virginia, no Clemson, etc., it's just not the ACC anymore. It's something else. And if what's left over after the P2 picks its parts has no choice but to add on schools like those you mention, it will be a bigger but less valuable mess than it is now. Those are all good schools, and there are a few good programs sprinkled amongst them, but there's not a single program on your list that I wouldn't trade for Iowa State. And folks here would throw stones at Iowa State.
Thread Replies (47)
🐓 or 🥚 poll: PAC gone, B12 a *shell of what it used to b, ACC FSU Clemson
-- Stech
Apr 17, 2024 at 09:43 PM ET
Stech
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04/17/24 09:43 PM ET
Athletic Conferences have been changing membership ever since they were
-- WBGV
Apr 18, 2024 at 11:16 AM ET
WBGV
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04/18/24 11:16 AM ET
I don’t see why the ACC can’t survive if B12 lost 5 top football schools.
-- Stech
Apr 18, 2024 at 02:10 PM ET
Stech
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04/18/24 02:10 PM ET
I guess the PAC technically survived as a conference,
-- WBGV
Apr 19, 2024 at 11:37 AM ET
WBGV
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04/19/24 11:37 AM ET
I don't consider the PAC surviving, I do consider the B12 surviving with 5
-- Stech
Apr 19, 2024 at 12:18 PM ET
Stech
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04/19/24 12:18 PM ET
Difference is that the Big 12 added really good schools, power worthy.
-- HouClone
Apr 19, 2024 at 02:29 PM ET
HouClone
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04/19/24 02:29 PM ET
Memphis used to be Memphis State, they are a State school, they have
-- Stech
Apr 19, 2024 at 03:44 PM ET
Stech
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04/19/24 03:44 PM ET
The Big 12 survived because they were able to get better TV media rights
-- WBGV
Apr 19, 2024 at 01:00 PM ET
WBGV
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04/19/24 01:00 PM ET
ESPN has lost the B1G and B12 🏀, so they have room for tier 2 too.
-- Stech
Apr 19, 2024 at 01:39 PM ET
Stech
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04/19/24 01:39 PM ET
The Big 12 reached a six-year extension with ESPN and Fox in October 2022.
-- WBGV
Apr 19, 2024 at 03:08 PM ET
WBGV
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04/19/24 03:08 PM ET
You mean the same reason Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Missouri
-- Stech
Apr 19, 2024 at 03:25 PM ET
Stech
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04/19/24 03:25 PM ET
I agree. if the media contract is plus or minus the B12 contract,
-- Big12 guy
Apr 18, 2024 at 04:51 PM ET
Big12 guy
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04/18/24 04:51 PM ET
Louisville and Pitt would still be attractive to the XII.
-- obguthr
Apr 19, 2024 at 05:41 AM ET
obguthr
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04/19/24 05:41 AM ET
The ACC could absolutely survive a Mag 7 exodus. They have to really want
-- 33laszlo99
Apr 18, 2024 at 02:26 PM ET
33laszlo99
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04/18/24 02:26 PM ET
The ACC will make it, but it won't be the ACC anymore
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-- Tailgate Guru
Apr 18, 2024 at 02:25 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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04/18/24 02:25 PM ET
All of it frankly. but throw in E. NCAA incompetence. **
-- VT Pez4Life
Apr 18, 2024 at 10:41 AM ET
VT Pez4Life
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04/18/24 10:41 AM ET
A. Believe the networks have been colluding to make an NFL lite type...
-- kt22hokie
Apr 18, 2024 at 10:13 AM ET
kt22hokie
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04/18/24 10:13 AM ET
D. Fans, viewers and legalized gambling
-- Vienna_Hokie
Apr 18, 2024 at 10:05 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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04/18/24 10:05 AM ET
Agreed, but I would also add rich fans with weird priorities...
-- MP4VT2004
Apr 19, 2024 at 06:45 PM ET
MP4VT2004
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04/19/24 06:45 PM ET
D) The ACC and CFA (it all goes back decades)
-- HokieAl
Apr 18, 2024 at 09:08 AM ET
HokieAl
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04/18/24 09:08 AM ET
A and C dwarf anything else.**
-- VTCALS72
Apr 18, 2024 at 08:41 AM ET
VTCALS72
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04/18/24 08:41 AM ET
I'm with Atlee...I vote E) All of the above**
-- EDGEMAN
Apr 18, 2024 at 06:34 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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04/18/24 06:34 AM ET
D. SCOTUS case (NCAA vs. U. of Oklahoma) and conference championship games
-- Maroon Baboon
Apr 18, 2024 at 12:28 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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04/18/24 12:28 AM ET
I'd add power too.
-- Old Line Hokie
Apr 18, 2024 at 10:09 AM ET
Old Line Hokie
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04/18/24 10:09 AM ET
Recency bias. The original greed was ACC stealing from Big East
-- HokieAl
Apr 18, 2024 at 10:41 AM ET
HokieAl
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04/18/24 10:41 AM ET
The original greed was the Big East excluding PSU
-- Tailgate Guru
Apr 18, 2024 at 02:28 PM ET
Tailgate Guru
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04/18/24 02:28 PM ET
A conference of Eastern indys
-- mancunian
Apr 18, 2024 at 03:13 PM ET
mancunian
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04/18/24 03:13 PM ET
Big 8 raided the SWC way before that
-- Truthahn
Apr 18, 2024 at 12:16 PM ET
Truthahn
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04/18/24 12:16 PM ET
I admit that my knowledge of the SWC is limited
-- HokieAl
Apr 18, 2024 at 12:58 PM ET
HokieAl
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04/18/24 12:58 PM ET
Once Arkansas left the entire
-- mancunian
Apr 18, 2024 at 02:06 PM ET
mancunian
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04/18/24 02:06 PM ET
And Arkansas hasn't had a rival since. Money and stability
-- HouClone
Apr 18, 2024 at 02:41 PM ET
HouClone
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04/18/24 02:41 PM ET
I sorta liked the old SWC.
-- mancunian
Apr 18, 2024 at 02:47 PM ET
mancunian
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04/18/24 02:47 PM ET
Who is the biggest leader in greediness in your mind?**
-- Stech
Apr 17, 2024 at 09:49 PM ET
Stech
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04/17/24 09:49 PM ET
They never have enough money and rarely win national championships
-- RJHokie
Apr 17, 2024 at 09:55 PM ET
RJHokie
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04/17/24 09:55 PM ET
Same to you, who is the biggest leader in greediness?**
-- Stech
Apr 17, 2024 at 09:51 PM ET
Stech
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04/17/24 09:51 PM ET
Very close between the SEC and Big 10 Conferences !**
-- FLKEYSHOKIE
Apr 17, 2024 at 10:01 PM ET
FLKEYSHOKIE
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04/17/24 10:01 PM ET