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I'm digging extensively into the media numbers

Still too early for me to post any conclusions. What I will say is that everyone should be very aware of what the numbers don't include as you noted (no ACCN, SECN, streaming, etc.). It's not all the sports channels. Here is one explanation from the site that a lot of people pull media info from. Why are there no ratings for SEC Network, ACC Network and more? The television networks pay Nielsen to measure viewership for their events. In some cases, they may choose not to. In a statement to Sports Media Watch, ESPN explained its rationale for not subscribing to Nielsen measurement for SEC Network, ACC Network, Longhorn Network and more: ESPN: “We regularly evaluate measurement options and currently use ComScore for all demographic, viewership and research data for ESPN’s college conference networks. We have found that this best suits our needs across the board.” Nielsen ratings explainer Rating: The percentage of television homes tuned to the game in the average minute. 1.9% of U.S. television homes were tuned to the August 26 Navy-Notre Dame game in the average minute. As of the 2023-24 TV season, Nielsen estimates there are 125 million TV homes. Viewers: The number of viewers aged 2+ viewing the game in the average minute. Navy-Notre Dame averaged 3.56 million viewers per minute. (That does not mean 3.56 million viewers total watched the game. Nielsen uses a separate total viewing figure to estimate how many viewers watched at least six minutes of any given telecast. Typically, that figure is significantly higher than the average viewership listed here.) Nielsen uses sampling data to estimate television audiences, which means your specific decision to watch or not watch a game does not have any direct impact on the numbers — unless you have been chosen by Nielsen to be part of its sample and agreed to do so. Does viewership include streaming? All Nielsen figures include streaming viewership through “virtual MVPDs” (ex. YouTube TV, Hulu + Live TV, Sling, Fubo, DIRECTV STREAM) on television, computer and mobile devices. Does viewership include DVR? Yes, all Nielsen figures cited here include same-day DVR. Nielsen also releases viewership figures that include three, seven and even 35 days of DVR viewing, but those are not shown here as they are not particularly relevant for sporting events. Does viewership include bars and restaurants? As of August 31, 2020, all Nielsen figures include out-of-home viewing. Again, Nielsen uses sampling data to calculate the audience, meaning that your viewing of a sporting event outside of your home does not count unless you are in a “Nielsen family.”
Posted: 04/11/2024 at 04:26 PM ET
(In response to this post by 33laszlo99)

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ESPN is a business, 2 ways to make more $, cut costs, & more revenue.
Stech 04/11/24 09:41 AM ET
As more and more move toward streaming,
Pylons 04/11/24 07:01 PM ET
Good point, less & less, but many businesses people look backwards instead
Stech 04/11/24 07:50 PM ET
A question on markets and the BIG....why focus on big cities?
mjfhokie 04/12/24 11:07 AM ET
Great questions & good assertions, I would just change the word B1G for Fox
Stech 04/12/24 12:49 PM ET
Thanks for the response.
mjfhokie 04/12/24 02:23 PM ET
Yeah two different models, but both have the potential to work.**
Stech 04/12/24 02:27 PM ET
"What is the Math Path..." If you will indulge a few assumptions
33laszlo99 04/11/24 03:50 PM ET
Where are you getting the school numbers from? I have never seen VT below 5
Stech 04/11/24 04:44 PM ET
VT games are hidden on ACCN and streaming. Not reported in media.
33laszlo99 04/11/24 04:49 PM ET
Here are some notes for the charts:
33laszlo99 04/11/24 04:04 PM ET
I'm digging extensively into the media numbers
HokieAl 04/11/24 04:26 PM ET
If they pretend to know the number of 2 year olds watching...
mjfhokie 04/12/24 02:33 PM ET
I always think it was a deal between 2 UNC alumni
DMV Gobbler 04/11/24 01:27 PM ET
You have a very active.....
2hhoop3 04/11/24 01:35 PM ET
In a scant 40 or so years........
2hhoop3 04/11/24 11:48 AM ET
Your first sentence is so spot on**
Tailgate Guru 04/11/24 12:46 PM ET
I wonder if FOX over paid for the Big 10, not so sure about the SEC, but
Big12 guy 04/11/24 10:58 AM ET
I imagine that Fox and ESPN will set viewership records this year.
hokieZ71 04/12/24 07:56 AM ET
In the short term, I think you are correct.
Big12 guy 04/12/24 08:28 AM ET
Gambling now owns the networks, no such thing as overpaying
Vienna_Hokie 04/11/24 03:34 PM ET
I think we need to readjust our perspective on the money (at least I do)
HokieAl 04/11/24 01:08 PM ET
It may pencil out, but as we
Big12 guy 04/11/24 03:47 PM ET
There are overpaid and underpaid programs as much as there are conferences.
Maroon Baboon 04/11/24 11:17 AM ET
ESPN has spent decades positioning the SEC as a premium product.
hokieball 04/11/24 10:51 AM ET
Let’s say that’s right, does the bump in being in the SEC, but paying more
Stech 04/11/24 11:41 AM ET
ESPN does have a sweetheart deal with the ACC. However, WRT the header of
VTHokie2000 04/11/24 10:49 AM ET
There was a post about this today actually (B12 person FYI)
HokieAl 04/11/24 10:44 AM ET
Tell your friend to put the bottle down, then brew him some java.**
33laszlo99 04/11/24 04:14 PM ET
I don’t see ESPN making more money in this scenario, why pay more for FSU &
Stech 04/11/24 11:46 AM ET
I agree, ESPN will accept whatever situation results from this realignment
33laszlo99 04/11/24 04:22 PM ET
Not a good deal for the ACC IMO.
Maroon Baboon 04/11/24 11:35 AM ET
So ESPN is speaking for the SEC now?
Marooned 04/11/24 11:08 AM ET
Nothing to see here....move along**
Maroon Unit 04/11/24 12:38 PM ET