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This, x 1,000,000.

I know nobody wants to hear it, but it's practically pointless to even field a D1 FBS football team if you're not going to compete for championships. And, if you're not in the P2, or Notre Dame, then you're not competing for championships. So, who cares? Why give to NIL? Why spend 1000s on tickets, parking, and travel? So you can cheer the team on to 7 wins instead of 6? Who cares? It's why I've never understood the G5, and why they don't raise more hell, or break away and do their own thing. Now, the ACC is the G5. It's difficult to even care, honestly. Oh, great, they won the ACC? Cool, now they can go get embarrassed by a P2 team that fields all 4 and 5 stars and has three times the budget. And, the championship is the only thing that matters, because everything else has been devalued to the extent that it's now pointless. Win your conference? Who cares. Win a non-CFP bowl game with all your back ups? Who cares. Win a CFP game, then lose? Who cares. And, at the end of the year, half or more of your players, whether they're not good enough or really good, are leaving for elsewhere. The only way to care if you're a VT fan now is to root for VT to beat whatever Vegas sets the win total at. That's the only thing VT is "winning" now. All of the above is why the current paradigm cannot last. It's untenable. The schools and conferences have let the TV people come in and screw everything up, for no reason. They also insist on continuing this laughable charade that these players are amateurs, just trying to get a college degree, which is why they continue to get reamed in court at every opportunity.
Posted: 03/12/2025 at 10:54 AM ET
(In response to this post by HokieNoVA)

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2nd cup of coffee musings
VTCALS72 03/12/25 09:24 AM ET
Don't under-estimate tailgating
CoolJCPA 03/12/25 01:36 PM ET
I am curious how far do you drive to tailgate at a Virginia Tech game?**
Stech 03/12/25 02:31 PM ET
38 miles from Roanoke**
CoolJCPA 03/12/25 03:29 PM ET
Thanks for letting me know, those coming from DMV, RIC and HR it becomes
Stech 03/12/25 04:24 PM ET
Better games and Talgates be better
MrFantastic! 03/13/25 08:06 AM ET
I think diminishing returns are a huge issue for mid-level programs like VT
HokieNoVA 03/12/25 10:14 AM ET
It takes leaders with big visions that aren't scared, Sands Academically, &
Stech 03/12/25 02:39 PM ET
VT needs to be whom they are . Not go crazy spending.
MrFantastic! 03/12/25 01:33 PM ET
this is not crazy spending, but its a market driven business
1947Sunbowl 03/15/25 08:56 AM ET
Great 1st paragraph, As for the 2nd
VTCALS72 03/12/25 11:34 AM ET
It's not the same model for Revenue different
1947Sunbowl 03/15/25 09:00 AM ET
Iowa State is doing pretty well
hokieZ71 03/12/25 11:04 AM ET
Perfect, you just said that for who VT is, and yes, ISU is a peer
VTCALS72 03/12/25 11:36 AM ET
agree
MrFantastic! 03/12/25 02:21 PM ET
This, x 1,000,000.
Baltimore_Hokie 03/12/25 10:54 AM ET
It's all about student recruitment, donors, and
Big12 guy 03/12/25 11:30 AM ET
Baloney
Pylons 03/12/25 05:50 PM ET
Really. Look at student enrollment when you team does well. Look at
Big12 guy 03/12/25 06:38 PM ET
VT has stunk at football for a decade
Pylons 03/12/25 06:54 PM ET
Pylons, what percentage of VT’s student body is out of state? And has it
Poultrygeist 03/12/25 10:05 PM ET
34% of undergrads are out-of-state
Pylons 03/13/25 07:58 AM ET
And here is an interesting table where you can select the year
RJHokie 03/12/25 11:05 PM ET
Here’s some info **
RJHokie 03/12/25 10:35 PM ET
I didn't say that you get grants through athletics, i said that they
Big12 guy 03/12/25 07:20 PM ET
Presidential relationships play pretty much no part in
Pylons 03/12/25 07:41 PM ET
All that is meaningless if you're a supporter of the program.
Baltimore_Hokie 03/12/25 11:41 AM ET
Toledo added a medical school and
Big12 guy 03/12/25 11:51 AM ET
Don't confuse a decision happening at a football game
Pylons 03/13/25 08:04 AM ET
I agree with this 100%. Academic decisions are not made because
Big12 guy 03/13/25 09:05 AM ET
Again, I'm not stupid. I understand the "front door of the U" concept.
Baltimore_Hokie 03/12/25 12:53 PM ET
I don't think you are stupid, just
Big12 guy 03/12/25 01:09 PM ET
People invest money n leaders that will deliver success. Sands Academically
Stech 03/12/25 10:03 AM ET
This post assumes that Whit is supposed to be or allowed to compete for
VTCALS72 03/12/25 11:58 AM ET
Whit is the entrepreneur or should be not a powerpoint producer
1947Sunbowl 03/12/25 05:36 PM ET
WB didn't have business accumen in the previous college athletics either.**
NokieHokie 03/12/25 09:07 PM ET
probably wrong canddiate for a land grant school
1947Sunbowl 03/13/25 08:29 AM ET
Of course he's allowed to fundraise any way needed. I'm sure plenty of
reestuart 03/12/25 01:45 PM ET
In answer to your last part, the siloing within the university is strong.
saret 03/12/25 05:03 PM ET
Whit just hired two nice people that have no fundraising experience, just
Stech 03/12/25 12:33 PM ET
Bingo. Whit hires people who are thankful for the job and will not
VT ChemE 1986 03/12/25 01:27 PM ET
No it doesn't. You created these assumptions in your fantasy land head.**
NokieHokie 03/12/25 12:32 PM ET
Is there nothing you won't excuse Whit from? You are his Supreme Apologist**
saret 03/12/25 12:04 PM ET
I don't excuse him from anything within reason
VTCALS72 03/12/25 08:40 PM ET
I disagree. Whit is highly flawed and has no business running a p4 program**
Poultrygeist 03/12/25 09:22 PM ET
Your very answer shows why it is the incorrect take
VTCALS72 03/12/25 09:49 PM ET
He is terrible at running the VT football program, however you define it.**
NokieHokie 03/12/25 09:52 PM ET
Well, some of us would say he doesn't run it now. He's a perfunctory
saret 03/12/25 09:41 PM ET
So, the answer is no, there is nothing you won't excuse him for and give
saret 03/12/25 08:55 PM ET
Its like we're racing in the Grand Prix with a stock Toyota Corolla
HokieNoVA 03/12/25 11:40 AM ET
A great AD that was an Assistant AD at *Ohio State for instance experience
Stech 03/12/25 12:45 PM ET
KA-BOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!! ^^THIS^^**
91HokieBob 03/12/25 04:57 PM ET
I have been advocating for this for months. It is the path forward.**
VT ChemE 1986 03/12/25 01:29 PM ET
Exactly**
VTCALS72 03/12/25 12:01 PM ET
thank 100 percent says it all. period
1947Sunbowl 03/12/25 10:41 AM ET