I have heard FSU, Clemson, UNC & NC State, from many sources. The Monty Show says that Miami was the 4th ACC school, instead of NC State. Monty said the politics in the Miami area was very intolerant to those SF Bay people. I heard a Clemson Insider say several days ago that UVA & Virginia Tech were on the bubble in regards to that expansion vote. I saw several people that had Tech avatars on Twitter (X) declaring Tech was also voting against expansion. Those Virginia Tech supporters claimed contact to present & past Tech BOV members. If even some of all that is true. I think the feelings against expansion in the ACC is more widespread than is being reported. That would also somewhat explain why vote results are now just swept under the rug never being made public. I remember the SEC expansion votes. Always unanimous with everybody agreeable and on the same page. That helps the public perception of a happy conference membership. I remember when the Aggies were making public statements about being unhappy about Texas entering the SEC. Even reports that the Aggies were looking for negative voting partners in the SEC. There was never a public statement by the SEC front office. Not until the SEC front office reported that there was a unanimous vote accepting both Texas & Oklahoma.