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The Big 12 Got a Record $42.6 Million Payday Recently

And, if I understand this correctly, by negotiating the early release of Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC (which benefits ESPN) then ESPN would return the favor by allowing the "new" Big 12 to keep the same pay rate and actually give a pay bump up..... maybe to $45 million per school per year. (If Texas and Oklahoma stay through 2025 I've heard the Big 12 might get as much as $50 million per school per year but I doubt this will ever happen because they'll be gone to the SEC before then.) This $45 million per school per year figure does not include any money from a streaming service like Amazon for example. The ACC only got $37 or $38 million in the most recent payday,... right??? I haven't heard how much the ACC will get in the near future. Anybody have a dollar estimate because I haven't seen one. Thanks! P.S. I've always felt when a school moves to a new conference they need to earn at least $10 million more per year from the new conference they're moving to so they can quickly recoup the exit fees they had to pay to the conference they're leaving behind and, on top of that, quickly recoup the entry fees they must pay to the new conference they're joining so that's why I don't see the conference moves some of you are hoping for. For example, will the ACC be able to pay WVU or Cincy $10 million more per year than what they will get by simply remaining in the Big 12? Can the Big 12 pay PAC 12 schools $10 million more per year than what they can get by simply remaining in the PAC 12? Because these exit and entry fees are so darn high I've had people I trust tell me the actual income increase needs to be at least $15 million so my $10 million requirement is actually quite conservative! That's why I suspect the only way the Big 12 can get those 4 corner schools to switch conferences is to have the B1G take Oregon and Washington first so those 4 corner schools have absolutely no choice but to make the leap to the Big 12. Additionally, why would WVU & Cincy want to join the ACC when it's almost unanimously agreed on this board that the ACC is inevitably going to be successfully raided by the B1G and SEC at some point in the future? ** Edited by LoveSports at 9/24/2022, 5:03:33 AM
Posted: 09/24/2022 at 05:01 AM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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ESPN Article about ACC, Big 12, PAC 12 Merger
LoveSports 09/23/22 10:33 PM ET
N&O article has more detail.
Truthahn 09/28/22 01:03 PM ET
the leftovers after the big 2 take the schools that matter....Conf USA2?
Vienna_Hokie 09/26/22 06:45 AM ET
Frankly cusa is dead
Mercury 09/27/22 08:45 AM ET
If the CFP-12 with 6 champs, it won't make sense to merge wrt access to the
Maroon Baboon 09/24/22 09:54 PM ET
Maybe just a scheduling agreement?
Truthahn 09/25/22 05:49 PM ET
Arizona is PST during daylight savings time. MST after "fall back".
Maroon Baboon 09/25/22 07:16 PM ET
Interesting that the question of whether all the existing schools would be
Femoyer Hokie 09/24/22 03:21 PM ET
Did that mean he might want to dump some of the ACC schools?
Truthahn 09/25/22 05:34 PM ET
Sounds possible
MrFantastic! 09/25/22 06:03 PM ET
I think the more likely path would be succession not merger
Vippie1 09/24/22 08:25 AM ET
I think its a hybrid model, non traditional...
Mercury 09/25/22 01:16 PM ET
GT
MrFantastic! 09/25/22 03:12 PM ET
How would you coordinate the tv negotiations for something like that given
BAMRising 09/24/22 10:17 AM ET
Start a company designed to do this.
33laszlo99 09/25/22 07:21 PM ET
no doubt it would be complex and staged over a period of time
Vippie1 09/24/22 10:26 AM ET
So basically a national TV contract serving as an umbrella w 3 conferences
BAMRising 09/24/22 10:39 AM ET
You could have some fun with scheduling…
mancunian 09/24/22 04:14 PM ET
Well I'd be in if the alternative is VT
Vippie1 09/24/22 10:58 AM ET
Same**
Femoyer Hokie 09/24/22 03:41 PM ET
Phillips noted that the ACC is in a power position for three reasons:
Stech 09/23/22 11:46 PM ET
I think that's the 'drug deal"
Mercury 09/24/22 11:23 AM ET
Best option now would be to skip over those and get Baylor and OK State
Truthahn 09/28/22 01:50 PM ET
"Let The Big Ten go?" ESPN's advertisers will disagree.**
33laszlo99 09/24/22 11:29 AM ET
Well they did. how bout that......2024-2025 no more ESPN ant the Big 10
Mercury 09/24/22 07:39 PM ET
2024 is a ways off, Merc. Stay tuned.**
33laszlo99 09/24/22 11:28 PM ET
The Big 12 Got a Record $42.6 Million Payday Recently
LoveSports 09/24/22 05:01 AM ET
We don’t know how much the delta is between what the PAC 12 and Big 12
Marooned 09/27/22 08:25 PM ET
I've seen year to year payouts, ACC gets a big $ bump in 2024-5 I think.
Truthahn 09/25/22 01:32 PM ET
If ACC lost both FSU and Miami would be neat to have UCF and USF
OrlandoHokie 09/25/22 09:09 PM ET
Location, location, location, that's going to create compelling matchups
Stech 09/24/22 08:25 AM ET
WVU is a no brainer.
HOO86 09/24/22 01:26 AM ET
I heard that Phillps was in Blacksburg on Thursday...
Old Line Hokie 09/24/22 12:48 AM ET
WVU AD Shane Lyons was on WVU sideline**
Millpoint 09/24/22 10:18 AM ET