I think the future state is obvious, but many will resist
The P2 problem, the playoff problem, and the bowl problem all can be solved with a single solution.
FBS level still exists but operates with three groupings (P2, P345, G5) and has three separate playoffs.
- all three groups can still schedule each other for OOC games
- all three groups exist for football only. Let conferences still exist for everything else.
- playoffs for the P345 and the G5 use/replace the existing bowl games
- conf champ games get replaced by play-in games
This should eliminate opt outs since the bowls would become playoffs. And it should actually increase the value of games for the media since there are multiple playoff grouping and national titles at stake. And the best part is that more fans can get engaged because more teams would have a shot at a national title (and further increasing the media value).
ND would never have to join a conference for football because the entire P2 would basically be independent, or only semi organized like the NFL.
** Edited by HokieAl at 12/10/2025, 3:36:53 PM
Thread Replies (21)
SEC Sankey & ND Becuqva talking all the time, this time about CFP left out **
-- Stech
Dec 10, 2025 at 12:53 PM ET
Stech
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12/10/25 12:53 PM ET
I think the future state is obvious, but many will resist
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-- HokieAl
Dec 10, 2025 at 03:35 PM ET
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12/10/25 03:35 PM ET
Interesting, one thing it is really a G6, the PAC will mainly be G5 teams &
-- Stech
Dec 10, 2025 at 04:19 PM ET
Stech
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12/10/25 04:19 PM ET
Actually the new PAC fills a nice geographic spot and role
-- HokieAl
Dec 10, 2025 at 04:51 PM ET
HokieAl
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12/10/25 04:51 PM ET
Looking forward to seeing your usually great research, but I doubt G5 teams
-- Stech
Dec 10, 2025 at 05:00 PM ET
Stech
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12/10/25 05:00 PM ET
ND has gotten very comfortable....
-- TerryD
Dec 10, 2025 at 02:20 PM ET
TerryD
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12/10/25 02:20 PM ET
Will be interesting to see what happens as SEC goes to 9 game schedule.**
-- Maroon Doom
Dec 10, 2025 at 07:50 PM ET
Maroon Doom
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12/10/25 07:50 PM ET
ND scheduled a home/home with Auburn.....
-- TerryD
Dec 11, 2025 at 11:36 AM ET
TerryD
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12/11/25 11:36 AM ET
It would be difficult to schedule late season games,
-- Big12 guy
Dec 10, 2025 at 06:57 PM ET
Big12 guy
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12/10/25 06:57 PM ET
USC is literally trying to avoid playing ND in October and November**
-- SMU Pony
Dec 10, 2025 at 08:47 PM ET
SMU Pony
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12/10/25 08:47 PM ET
GT has 1? Clemson has 1? 1 doesn't cut it if you don't have a conference
-- RTFC
Dec 10, 2025 at 08:12 PM ET
RTFC
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12/10/25 08:12 PM ET
Just an opinion, and I stand by it. Not sure
-- Big12 guy
Dec 10, 2025 at 08:28 PM ET
Big12 guy
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12/10/25 08:28 PM ET
This thread was still on my screen this AM...
-- RTFC
Dec 11, 2025 at 10:02 AM ET
RTFC
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12/11/25 10:02 AM ET
I agree with most of your post, except that I really
-- Big12 guy
Dec 11, 2025 at 10:33 AM ET
Big12 guy
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12/11/25 10:33 AM ET
Fair. But it is not my opinion - comes from ND fans/schedule data. Night.**
-- RTFC
Dec 10, 2025 at 08:33 PM ET
RTFC
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12/10/25 08:33 PM ET
Hilarious that ND got screwed over for an SEC school, but the ND AD
-- reestuart
Dec 10, 2025 at 01:20 PM ET
reestuart
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12/10/25 01:20 PM ET
Gosh, if only if ND could prove itself and play Miami. **
-- Big12 guy
Dec 10, 2025 at 02:17 PM ET
Big12 guy
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12/10/25 02:17 PM ET
They're only attacking the ACC because the ACC won't fight back.
-- reestuart
Dec 10, 2025 at 02:20 PM ET
reestuart
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12/10/25 02:20 PM ET
Big donors got mad, needed a public outcry, he probably informed Phillips
-- Stech
Dec 10, 2025 at 02:59 PM ET
Stech
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12/10/25 02:59 PM ET