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As long as the P2 contains Rutgers, Vandy, MD, N-W, Indiana, Minn, etc
We live in a system where, if nothing changes, those schools listed in my subject are just a few years away from receiving close to $100M a year while schools you’d actually like to watch play football - Clemson, Florida State, Miami, VT, Oklahoma State, Baylor, West Virginia, Utah, TCU, Louisville, and more - will receive a little more than half that amount.
So…Top 5 reasons are irrelevant. Maryland and Rutgers were relevant over a decade ago because they “delivered a market”. So were BC and Syracuse. And they do absolutely zero for the conference they are in.
WVU has done more to add compelling and interesting games on TV for the Big XII than any of those 4 shlock programs that “delivered a market” have ever done for their P2 conferences. I’ve never wanted to watch any of their games if it didn’t include VT. Over a decade…zero Maryland games. Zero BC games, etc… They are total zeroes.
Now, in this new age of the P2, none of them actually deliver a market that will matter moving forward, because it’s all going to be about generating single game eyeballs and ratings and streaming subscribers and there are so many “P2 Programs” that will absolutely NOT deliver that. Who can wait to turn on that Maryland vs Purdue game! Minnesota - Rutgers! Can’t wait! I’ve never gotten excited about Vanderbilt-Arkansas or Mississippi St vs Kentucky. Or Missouri vs Ole Miss. Who gives a crap?
You know the most exciting non-VT game without a Top 10 power school that I actually wanted to watch the last couple of years? WVU-Pitt in 2022. Honestly, that was pretty fun to watch.
You know, VT wasn’t even going to get added to the ACC, because we didn’t deliver a market to the ACC. Why should we be so high on our chances this go round? It could just as easily be said that VT doesn’t deliver the DC market and that the state of VA isn’t that important to the P2. Who cares about the fact that VT football games are fun to watch when UVA football sucks worse than basically anybody but they are buddies with UNC? That sure seems to matter…
Thread Replies (70)
In order, give me your top 5 reasons a P2 league should take VT. Then show
-- cricket77
Jun 01, 2024 at 08:29 PM ET
cricket77
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06/01/24 08:29 PM ET
1. Cause we are VT and we don't wait at the concession stand. We go to
-- jdkhokie
Jun 03, 2024 at 12:13 PM ET
jdkhokie
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06/03/24 12:13 PM ET
And if the walk away cost is >300 mil
-- VTCALS72
Jun 03, 2024 at 09:03 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/03/24 09:03 AM ET
We need the Big 10 to add UVA, give the SEC a reason to respond **
-- VaTechHokiesACC
Jun 02, 2024 at 10:31 PM ET
VaTechHokiesACC
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06/02/24 10:31 PM ET
I could also see it going the other way around.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 03, 2024 at 01:29 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/03/24 01:29 AM ET
Less likely IMHO because of a Big presence already in DMV
-- VTCALS72
Jun 03, 2024 at 09:06 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/03/24 09:06 AM ET
Yep. Moreover, if UNC goes to the SEC, I think there will be some
-- TDVick
Jun 03, 2024 at 05:44 AM ET
TDVick
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06/03/24 05:44 AM ET
Perhaps. But somebody better let FSU in on the ruse.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 03, 2024 at 12:25 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/03/24 12:25 PM ET
In the bull on bull FSU and what they want vs ESPN and what they want
-- VTCALS72
Jun 03, 2024 at 01:07 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/03/24 01:07 PM ET
UVA is just a better fit for the Big 10 while VT is more SEC
-- VaTechHokiesACC
Jun 03, 2024 at 03:46 AM ET
VaTechHokiesACC
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06/03/24 03:46 AM ET
VT has some aspects that work for and against us
-- HokieAl
Jun 02, 2024 at 01:42 PM ET
HokieAl
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06/02/24 01:42 PM ET
If a P2 decides it wants a presence in VA, they should pick VT
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jun 02, 2024 at 01:35 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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06/02/24 01:35 PM ET
Our SEC Audition is Aug31, in Nashville
-- VPI 1924
Jun 02, 2024 at 12:30 PM ET
VPI 1924
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06/02/24 12:30 PM ET
I don't think that matters much either way
-- VTCALS72
Jun 03, 2024 at 09:17 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/03/24 09:17 AM ET
I don't want to speak this into existence
-- obguthr
Jun 02, 2024 at 09:18 PM ET
obguthr
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06/02/24 09:18 PM ET
We’d have to beat Vandy by 70 to get SEC attention **
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 01:43 PM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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06/02/24 01:43 PM ET
Eh more like by 224 points**
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 02, 2024 at 02:37 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/02/24 02:37 PM ET
How about some metrics from some reasonably credible, objective sources**
-- Maroon Unit
Jun 02, 2024 at 11:26 AM ET
Maroon Unit
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06/02/24 11:26 AM ET
The funny part is that ACC added #40, 47, 81
-- HokieAl
Jun 02, 2024 at 07:20 PM ET
HokieAl
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06/02/24 07:20 PM ET
So on that list the only 2 teams in the top 24 not in the sec or big10 are
-- cricket77
Jun 02, 2024 at 03:11 PM ET
cricket77
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06/02/24 03:11 PM ET
There is ND....And the only 4 teams in the Top 28 not in a P2 are:
-- MVIII
Jun 02, 2024 at 03:58 PM ET
MVIII
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06/02/24 03:58 PM ET
Actually the top 4 teams........
-- 2hhoop3
Jun 02, 2024 at 03:55 PM ET
2hhoop3
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06/02/24 03:55 PM ET
I posted about this some time ago but can’t find it now
-- lawhokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 10:38 AM ET
lawhokie
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06/02/24 10:38 AM ET
See my post below. Certainly our team of administrators play it close to
-- VTCALS72
Jun 02, 2024 at 11:50 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/02/24 11:50 AM ET
Maybe 40 years ago.
-- VaTechHokiesACC
Jun 02, 2024 at 10:28 PM ET
VaTechHokiesACC
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06/02/24 10:28 PM ET
You must've forgotten about the decade that we were an ESPN national media
-- NokieHokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 04:00 PM ET
NokieHokie
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06/02/24 04:00 PM ET
Agree, but those "things" come and go and we have been out of the real
-- FLKEYSHOKIE
Jun 02, 2024 at 05:23 PM ET
FLKEYSHOKIE
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06/02/24 05:23 PM ET
Not sure what that has to do with my post, but okay.**
-- NokieHokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 05:40 PM ET
NokieHokie
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06/02/24 05:40 PM ET
It doesn't, just thinking "out loud" and injecting a thought !**
-- FLKEYSHOKIE
Jun 02, 2024 at 05:54 PM ET
FLKEYSHOKIE
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06/02/24 05:54 PM ET
I have lived in CA on and off for 37 years. VT is a well known brand here**
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 01:48 PM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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06/02/24 01:48 PM ET
When is the last time you saw
-- VPI 1924
Jun 02, 2024 at 05:20 PM ET
VPI 1924
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06/02/24 05:20 PM ET
Banners on buildings really aren’t a big thing here….
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 06:10 PM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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06/02/24 06:10 PM ET
Outside of when a non blue blood is doing really well on field or court
-- VTCALS72
Jun 02, 2024 at 01:40 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/02/24 01:40 PM ET
How do you like living under a rock?**
-- RJHokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 12:18 PM ET
RJHokie
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06/02/24 12:18 PM ET
I’ve lived in 8 different states
-- VPI 1924
Jun 02, 2024 at 12:26 PM ET
VPI 1924
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06/02/24 12:26 PM ET
As long as the P2 contains Rutgers, Vandy, MD, N-W, Indiana, Minn, etc
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-- hokieZ71
Jun 02, 2024 at 09:33 AM ET
hokieZ71
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06/02/24 09:33 AM ET
The ACC didn’t want to add VT because they lack business acumen
-- lawhokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 10:51 AM ET
lawhokie
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06/02/24 10:51 AM ET
I disagree with your stated reason.
-- VTCALS72
Jun 02, 2024 at 11:45 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/02/24 11:45 AM ET
If the way that you execute your plan is faulty…
-- lawhokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 05:10 PM ET
lawhokie
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06/02/24 05:10 PM ET
But was it? There is a lot of distance between near perfect and
-- VTCALS72
Jun 02, 2024 at 10:08 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/02/24 10:08 PM ET
UNCheat didn't want BC. They voted against everyone,
-- Atlee Hokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 02:42 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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06/02/24 02:42 PM ET
My memory is that up to the vote and through the initial presentation of
-- VTCALS72
Jun 02, 2024 at 03:35 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/02/24 03:35 PM ET
It's my understanding that both Duke and UNC voted yes on the initial ...
-- Atlee Hokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 03:55 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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06/02/24 03:55 PM ET
We remember it the same way then
-- VTCALS72
Jun 02, 2024 at 04:25 PM ET
VTCALS72
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06/02/24 04:25 PM ET
@Atlee Hokie has it right......
-- 2hhoop3
Jun 02, 2024 at 03:39 PM ET
2hhoop3
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06/02/24 03:39 PM ET
I disagree on NOVA DC market**
-- cvillehokie92
Jun 02, 2024 at 10:17 AM ET
cvillehokie92
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06/02/24 10:17 AM ET
I didn't say that was my stance, just that "it could be said"**
-- hokieZ71
Jun 02, 2024 at 10:23 AM ET
hokieZ71
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06/02/24 10:23 AM ET
1- Biggest football everything is a top 10-11 state
-- VTCALS72
Jun 02, 2024 at 07:30 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/02/24 07:30 AM ET
Pass, I have a Seinfeld rerun to watch**
-- ombandit
Jun 01, 2024 at 10:20 PM ET
ombandit
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06/01/24 10:20 PM ET
may I recommend "The Bubble Boy"
-- VPI_1998
Jun 02, 2024 at 05:51 AM ET
VPI_1998
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06/02/24 05:51 AM ET
Marine biologist or latex salesman**
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 02, 2024 at 10:07 PM ET
33laszlo99
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06/02/24 10:07 PM ET
Love this response - we are fans Afterall. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 01, 2024 at 09:39 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/01/24 09:39 PM ET
Are rally boobs part of being awesome or is that #6 on the list?**
-- HwoodHokie
Jun 01, 2024 at 09:09 PM ET
HwoodHokie
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06/01/24 09:09 PM ET
The baseball team really missed her this season. ;)
-- Old Line Hokie
Jun 02, 2024 at 06:59 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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06/02/24 06:59 PM ET
Oh my, no!! That's #1 !!**
-- ancient alien 2018
Jun 01, 2024 at 09:19 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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06/01/24 09:19 PM ET
Hoos and Hokies alike, can get behind (or in front of) Rally Boobs!!**
-- hoodat
Jun 02, 2024 at 07:24 AM ET
hoodat
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06/02/24 07:24 AM ET