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hokieZ71
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As long as the P2 contains Rutgers, Vandy, MD, N-W, Indiana, Minn, etc

We live in a system where, if nothing changes, those schools listed in my subject are just a few years away from receiving close to $100M a year while schools you’d actually like to watch play football - Clemson, Florida State, Miami, VT, Oklahoma State, Baylor, West Virginia, Utah, TCU, Louisville, and more - will receive a little more than half that amount. So…Top 5 reasons are irrelevant. Maryland and Rutgers were relevant over a decade ago because they “delivered a market”. So were BC and Syracuse. And they do absolutely zero for the conference they are in. WVU has done more to add compelling and interesting games on TV for the Big XII than any of those 4 shlock programs that “delivered a market” have ever done for their P2 conferences. I’ve never wanted to watch any of their games if it didn’t include VT. Over a decade…zero Maryland games. Zero BC games, etc… They are total zeroes. Now, in this new age of the P2, none of them actually deliver a market that will matter moving forward, because it’s all going to be about generating single game eyeballs and ratings and streaming subscribers and there are so many “P2 Programs” that will absolutely NOT deliver that. Who can wait to turn on that Maryland vs Purdue game! Minnesota - Rutgers! Can’t wait! I’ve never gotten excited about Vanderbilt-Arkansas or Mississippi St vs Kentucky. Or Missouri vs Ole Miss. Who gives a crap? You know the most exciting non-VT game without a Top 10 power school that I actually wanted to watch the last couple of years? WVU-Pitt in 2022. Honestly, that was pretty fun to watch. You know, VT wasn’t even going to get added to the ACC, because we didn’t deliver a market to the ACC. Why should we be so high on our chances this go round? It could just as easily be said that VT doesn’t deliver the DC market and that the state of VA isn’t that important to the P2. Who cares about the fact that VT football games are fun to watch when UVA football sucks worse than basically anybody but they are buddies with UNC? That sure seems to matter…
Posted: 06/02/2024 at 09:33 AM ET
(In response to this post by cricket77)

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In order, give me your top 5 reasons a P2 league should take VT. Then show
cricket77 06/01/24 08:29 PM ET
1. Cause we are VT and we don't wait at the concession stand. We go to
jdkhokie 06/03/24 12:13 PM ET
The exit costs
INSIDE99 06/02/24 10:58 PM ET
And if the walk away cost is >300 mil
VTCALS72 06/03/24 09:03 AM ET
We need the Big 10 to add UVA, give the SEC a reason to respond **
VaTechHokiesACC 06/02/24 10:31 PM ET
I could also see it going the other way around.
Maroon Baboon 06/03/24 01:29 AM ET
Less likely IMHO because of a Big presence already in DMV
VTCALS72 06/03/24 09:06 AM ET
Yep. Moreover, if UNC goes to the SEC, I think there will be some
TDVick 06/03/24 05:44 AM ET
Here is a thought for you
VTCALS72 06/03/24 09:12 AM ET
Perhaps. But somebody better let FSU in on the ruse.
Maroon Baboon 06/03/24 12:25 PM ET
In the bull on bull FSU and what they want vs ESPN and what they want
VTCALS72 06/03/24 01:07 PM ET
Why did you post this?
33laszlo99 06/03/24 11:05 AM ET
LOL**
VTCALS72 06/03/24 12:25 PM ET
UVA is just a better fit for the Big 10 while VT is more SEC
VaTechHokiesACC 06/03/24 03:46 AM ET
VT has some aspects that work for and against us
HokieAl 06/02/24 01:42 PM ET
If a P2 decides it wants a presence in VA, they should pick VT
VT ChemE 1986 06/02/24 01:35 PM ET
Our SEC Audition is Aug31, in Nashville
VPI 1924 06/02/24 12:30 PM ET
I don't think that matters much either way
VTCALS72 06/03/24 09:17 AM ET
I don't want to speak this into existence
obguthr 06/02/24 09:18 PM ET
You mean STARTS at Vamdy**
949hokie 06/02/24 05:52 PM ET
We’d have to beat Vandy by 70 to get SEC attention **
CrystalCoveHokie 06/02/24 01:43 PM ET
Eh more like by 224 points**
VTHokie2000 06/02/24 02:37 PM ET
How about some metrics from some reasonably credible, objective sources**
Maroon Unit 06/02/24 11:26 AM ET
The funny part is that ACC added #40, 47, 81
HokieAl 06/02/24 07:20 PM ET
So on that list the only 2 teams in the top 24 not in the sec or big10 are
cricket77 06/02/24 03:11 PM ET
There is ND....And the only 4 teams in the Top 28 not in a P2 are:
MVIII 06/02/24 03:58 PM ET
Actually the top 4 teams........
2hhoop3 06/02/24 03:55 PM ET
I posted about this some time ago but can’t find it now
lawhokie 06/02/24 10:38 AM ET
No personality
VPI 1924 06/02/24 11:20 AM ET
See my post below. Certainly our team of administrators play it close to
VTCALS72 06/02/24 11:50 AM ET
NO PROMTION
VPI 1924 06/02/24 12:10 PM ET
Maybe 40 years ago.
VaTechHokiesACC 06/02/24 10:28 PM ET
You must've forgotten about the decade that we were an ESPN national media
NokieHokie 06/02/24 04:00 PM ET
Agree, but those "things" come and go and we have been out of the real
FLKEYSHOKIE 06/02/24 05:23 PM ET
Not sure what that has to do with my post, but okay.**
NokieHokie 06/02/24 05:40 PM ET
It doesn't, just thinking "out loud" and injecting a thought !**
FLKEYSHOKIE 06/02/24 05:54 PM ET
I have lived in CA on and off for 37 years. VT is a well known brand here**
CrystalCoveHokie 06/02/24 01:48 PM ET
When is the last time you saw
VPI 1924 06/02/24 05:20 PM ET
Banners on buildings really aren’t a big thing here….
CrystalCoveHokie 06/02/24 06:10 PM ET
Outside of when a non blue blood is doing really well on field or court
VTCALS72 06/02/24 01:40 PM ET
How do you like living under a rock?**
RJHokie 06/02/24 12:18 PM ET
I’ve lived in 8 different states
VPI 1924 06/02/24 12:26 PM ET
I believe I’m older than you.
RJHokie 06/02/24 12:34 PM ET
102yrs
VPI 1924 06/02/24 05:13 PM ET
As long as the P2 contains Rutgers, Vandy, MD, N-W, Indiana, Minn, etc
hokieZ71 06/02/24 09:33 AM ET
The ACC didn’t want to add VT because they lack business acumen
lawhokie 06/02/24 10:51 AM ET
I disagree with your stated reason.
VTCALS72 06/02/24 11:45 AM ET
If the way that you execute your plan is faulty…
lawhokie 06/02/24 05:10 PM ET
But was it? There is a lot of distance between near perfect and
VTCALS72 06/02/24 10:08 PM ET
UNCheat didn't want BC. They voted against everyone,
Atlee Hokie 06/02/24 02:42 PM ET
My memory is that up to the vote and through the initial presentation of
VTCALS72 06/02/24 03:35 PM ET
It's my understanding that both Duke and UNC voted yes on the initial ...
Atlee Hokie 06/02/24 03:55 PM ET
We remember it the same way then
VTCALS72 06/02/24 04:25 PM ET
Their initial vote.......
2hhoop3 06/02/24 04:18 PM ET
@Atlee Hokie has it right......
2hhoop3 06/02/24 03:39 PM ET
I disagree on NOVA DC market**
cvillehokie92 06/02/24 10:17 AM ET
I didn't say that was my stance, just that "it could be said"**
hokieZ71 06/02/24 10:23 AM ET
1- Biggest football everything is a top 10-11 state
VTCALS72 06/02/24 07:30 AM ET
Pass, I have a Seinfeld rerun to watch**
ombandit 06/01/24 10:20 PM ET
may I recommend "The Bubble Boy"
VPI_1998 06/02/24 05:51 AM ET
Marine biologist or latex salesman**
33laszlo99 06/02/24 10:07 PM ET
Mulva!**
CMU Hokie 06/02/24 08:28 PM ET
Here is my list
wwhokie1 06/01/24 09:07 PM ET
Love this response - we are fans Afterall. **
Big12 guy 06/01/24 09:39 PM ET
Are rally boobs part of being awesome or is that #6 on the list?**
HwoodHokie 06/01/24 09:09 PM ET
Shun.**
IB4TECH 06/03/24 12:55 PM ET
The baseball team really missed her this season. ;)
Old Line Hokie 06/02/24 06:59 PM ET
Rally Boobs?
dayooper 06/01/24 09:47 PM ET
Welcome aboard!**
HwoodHokie 06/01/24 11:14 PM ET
Oh my, no!! That's #1 !!**
ancient alien 2018 06/01/24 09:19 PM ET
Hoos and Hokies alike, can get behind (or in front of) Rally Boobs!!**
hoodat 06/02/24 07:24 AM ET