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Reminds me of the "Dolphin Safe Tuna" days
US fishing boats were required to leave certain tuna grounds because it was where dolphins mingled with tuna and got caught up in the nets.
The US boats were replaced with Chinese and other asian country boats, and while the US boats would catch dolphins, as a general rule, they attempted to free them and release them, the new boats that took over for them didn't, just killed them and took them back for food. So, net effect of dolphin safe tuna? More dead dolphins.
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Will the Green Mafia object to Lithium mining when they find out coal mines
-- bigbadbird
Oct 18, 2022 at 11:01 AM ET
bigbadbird
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10/18/22 11:01 AM ET
So what's the answer? Do they or do they not object?**
-- Brown Water
Oct 18, 2022 at 03:19 PM ET
Brown Water
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10/18/22 03:19 PM ET
The US should eliminate the sport soccer instead of gas powered cars.
-- OrlandoHokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 03:18 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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10/18/22 03:18 PM ET
It would also cut down dramatically on greenhouse emissions
-- Tafkam Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 03:34 PM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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10/18/22 03:34 PM ET
lol, also how dare Johnny play on the monkey bars, he may get hurt
-- VaTechie
Oct 18, 2022 at 10:08 PM ET
VaTechie
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10/18/22 10:08 PM ET
Who is angry about that? Seems like 2 birds with 1 stone.
-- Fatman
Oct 18, 2022 at 03:02 PM ET
Fatman
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10/18/22 03:02 PM ET
Same equipment and same owners? Go on and explain that 1 if you can.**
-- MVIII
Oct 18, 2022 at 02:34 PM ET
MVIII
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10/18/22 02:34 PM ET
mines are in the same location- mining companies are the people
-- bigbadbird
Oct 18, 2022 at 02:43 PM ET
bigbadbird
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10/18/22 02:43 PM ET
Another 10-15M barrels of oil to be released from StrategicPetroleumReserve
-- MikeVT85
Oct 18, 2022 at 02:31 PM ET
MikeVT85
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10/18/22 02:31 PM ET
Doing the math on 1 barrel yields 20 gallons of gas
-- TheNuke
Oct 18, 2022 at 02:51 PM ET
TheNuke
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10/18/22 02:51 PM ET
Even simpler math. The United States consumes about 20M barrels of oil per
-- Tafkam Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 03:21 PM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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10/18/22 03:21 PM ET
Especially when we have been exporting 15-20% of them ...
-- vt90
Oct 18, 2022 at 03:32 PM ET
vt90
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10/18/22 03:32 PM ET
I believe the US’ refinery system is poorly aligned to our democratic oil.
-- Fatman
Oct 18, 2022 at 05:19 PM ET
Fatman
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10/18/22 05:19 PM ET
Yep - a literal drop in the bucket and we have been releasing oil from the
-- vt90
Oct 18, 2022 at 03:04 PM ET
vt90
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10/18/22 03:04 PM ET
The US has lacked an energy policy for decades.
-- Fatman
Oct 18, 2022 at 05:13 PM ET
Fatman
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10/18/22 05:13 PM ET
Was in South Africa last May and they complained about the effects
-- AirborneHokie96
Oct 18, 2022 at 02:28 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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10/18/22 02:28 PM ET
Reminds me of the "Dolphin Safe Tuna" days
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-- Vienna_Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 05:21 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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10/18/22 05:21 PM ET
Interesting article I came across recently on Germany authorizing
-- MikeVT85
Oct 18, 2022 at 02:03 PM ET
MikeVT85
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10/18/22 02:03 PM ET
Stop being so practical. The green movement is about
-- HokieNoVA
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:04 PM ET
HokieNoVA
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10/18/22 12:04 PM ET
they've whistled past the lithium graveyard since this silliness started
-- Vienna_Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 11:56 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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10/18/22 11:56 AM ET
From a pure engineering perspective, an electric motor is still a vastly
-- Tafkam Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:09 PM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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10/18/22 12:09 PM ET
Then why aren't we developing vehicles that have:
-- EDGEMAN
Oct 18, 2022 at 01:27 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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10/18/22 01:27 PM ET
Isn't that a hybrid car? **
-- DallasHokie98
Oct 18, 2022 at 08:44 PM ET
DallasHokie98
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10/18/22 08:44 PM ET
You mean like railroad locomotives?**
-- RJHokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 01:42 PM ET
RJHokie
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10/18/22 01:42 PM ET
yes, they are giant diesel generators that power electric motors
-- Vienna_Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 01:56 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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10/18/22 01:56 PM ET
Availability of raw materials is a pretty big meatball.**
-- mancunian
Oct 18, 2022 at 01:18 PM ET
mancunian
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10/18/22 01:18 PM ET
not just availability, in this case, the raw materials destroy the value**
-- Vienna_Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 01:37 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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10/18/22 01:37 PM ET
So why not build EVs with ICE DC generators?**
-- MP4VT2004
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:37 PM ET
MP4VT2004
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10/18/22 12:37 PM ET
trains? We have those**
-- typed by ben
Oct 19, 2022 at 05:47 AM ET
typed by ben
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10/19/22 05:47 AM ET
China is a rival, but the US can compete with them.
-- Fatman
Oct 18, 2022 at 03:17 PM ET
Fatman
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10/18/22 03:17 PM ET
Compete with them? Their goal is to be the one world superpower, and...
-- EDGEMAN
Oct 18, 2022 at 05:51 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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10/18/22 05:51 PM ET
The US can compete with China, the problem is we generally choose not to
-- Tafkam Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 03:26 PM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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10/18/22 03:26 PM ET
Dang, we're on the same page again...lol**
-- EDGEMAN
Oct 18, 2022 at 01:28 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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10/18/22 01:28 PM ET
Just guessing, but probably efficiency
-- Tafkam Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:49 PM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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10/18/22 12:49 PM ET
Exactly. I was actually kind of taking exception with your statement....
-- MP4VT2004
Oct 18, 2022 at 01:50 PM ET
MP4VT2004
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10/18/22 01:50 PM ET
To nitpick the nitpicks a bit
-- Tafkam Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 02:45 PM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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10/18/22 02:45 PM ET
There is a WaWa with several charging stations almost in the shadows of
-- Tuckahokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:04 PM ET
Tuckahokie
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10/18/22 12:04 PM ET
I've never heard of widespread objections to the mining of coal
-- Tafkam Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 11:47 AM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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10/18/22 11:47 AM ET
Just objections to turning coal into electricity.**
-- EDGEMAN
Oct 18, 2022 at 01:28 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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10/18/22 01:28 PM ET
And you don't see a link between the mining of coal and burning of coal?**
-- HokieNoVA
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:00 PM ET
HokieNoVA
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10/18/22 12:00 PM ET
The context of the OP was that coal mines, coal miners, and coal mining
-- Tafkam Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:26 PM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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10/18/22 12:26 PM ET
it's like when you get fussed at for eating the desserts
-- bigbadbird
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:07 PM ET
bigbadbird
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10/18/22 12:07 PM ET
This is code for gawking at scantily-clad wimminz, right? TIC**
-- MP4VT2004
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:39 PM ET
MP4VT2004
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10/18/22 12:39 PM ET
Lithium is now called White Gold...look for Chile, Peru, Bolivia and...
-- Major Kong
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:20 PM ET
Major Kong
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10/18/22 12:20 PM ET
woo hoo beholden to 3rd world dictatorships for our economy again**
-- Vienna_Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 01:42 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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10/18/22 01:42 PM ET
That is exactly why China is propping up the economies in those countries
-- vt90
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:34 PM ET
vt90
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10/18/22 12:34 PM ET
We have boocoodles of Lithium here in the US but only one mine located...
-- Major Kong
Oct 18, 2022 at 01:13 PM ET
Major Kong
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10/18/22 01:13 PM ET
but we like to outsource our environmental destruction so we don't see it
-- Vienna_Hokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 05:24 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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10/18/22 05:24 PM ET
All we really need is a 100% Covid kill rate to get that pesky emission
-- Coach McGuirk
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:07 PM ET
Coach McGuirk
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10/18/22 12:07 PM ET
Let's do it then. That keeps me busy since we work at all those type mines.**
-- Nortazhokie
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:01 PM ET
Nortazhokie
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10/18/22 12:01 PM ET
Coal is carbon, whose number is 6, right?
-- Hokie CPA
Oct 18, 2022 at 11:20 AM ET
Hokie CPA
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10/18/22 11:20 AM ET
You shouldn't be a 5 this subject.**
-- Major Kong
Oct 18, 2022 at 12:25 PM ET
Major Kong
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10/18/22 12:25 PM ET