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Market for lower end stuff is in total collapse.
Has been for over six months. Too many producers that can’t afford storage which is in very short supply. A lot of leverage in the industry and many thought rates were going back down.
You could buy a barrell of new make for $200 in October. Alot of firms tried to fire sale bourbon in barrels at year end but clean balance sheets but there was very little buying.
Many of the newer producers are dead especially the folks that were buying bourbon from the mass producers then aging and branding it.
Pappy won’t fall to far though. Regardless of tariffs it is still swarmed in auctions and by the foreign crowd.
The brands with pretty bottles but mediocre bourbon are “toasted”. The cocktail culture from Covid is also falling off.
If you want to buy a barrel of bourbon to store at your farm or house it’s a very good time to buy one.
Thread Replies (19)
And now for some good news? You might find Pappy Van Winkle soon
-- Va AandM
Jan 13, 2025 at 03:38 PM ET
Va AandM
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01/13/25 03:38 PM ET
Not just bourbon. Beer/liquor sales are down across all segments
-- GOHOKEE
Jan 13, 2025 at 05:48 PM ET
GOHOKEE
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01/13/25 05:48 PM ET
Buddy of mine at a beer distributor agrees
-- Beerman
Jan 14, 2025 at 01:22 PM ET
Beerman
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01/14/25 01:22 PM ET
And wine. We just aren't drinking as much or the big drinkers are dying off**
-- UTPr0sim
Jan 13, 2025 at 06:31 PM ET
UTPr0sim
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01/13/25 06:31 PM ET
The Youth have reefer madness**
-- Va AandM
Jan 13, 2025 at 06:37 PM ET
Va AandM
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01/13/25 06:37 PM ET
Market for lower end stuff is in total collapse.
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-- GreenvilleVT
Jan 13, 2025 at 05:12 PM ET
GreenvilleVT
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01/13/25 05:12 PM ET
So if they offered it @$250 a bottle would you buy more than 1?**
-- UTPr0sim
Jan 13, 2025 at 04:43 PM ET
UTPr0sim
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01/13/25 04:43 PM ET
I wouldn't buy 1 at that price
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jan 13, 2025 at 05:00 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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01/13/25 05:00 PM ET
My palate isn't discriminating enough to taste the difference between...
-- EDGEMAN
Jan 13, 2025 at 06:08 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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01/13/25 06:08 PM ET
I'm not sure that result is gonna happen anytime soon
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jan 13, 2025 at 03:50 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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01/13/25 03:50 PM ET
I suspect the crappy $50+ bottles from no names will all but disappear.**
-- UTPr0sim
Jan 13, 2025 at 04:42 PM ET
UTPr0sim
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01/13/25 04:42 PM ET
Agree, there is a lot of overpriced Meh on the market right now
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jan 13, 2025 at 04:57 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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01/13/25 04:57 PM ET
Like in any booming market, there is money to be made in offering mediocre
-- Tafkam Hokie
Jan 13, 2025 at 05:04 PM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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01/13/25 05:04 PM ET
Last time we played at Louisville in football, we went for a long weekend
-- Tafkam Hokie
Jan 13, 2025 at 04:30 PM ET
Tafkam Hokie
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01/13/25 04:30 PM ET
I don't see it happening anytime soon either...
-- EDGEMAN
Jan 13, 2025 at 04:28 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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01/13/25 04:28 PM ET
It needed to. Add cars to the list.**
-- No Clue
Jan 13, 2025 at 03:46 PM ET
No Clue
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01/13/25 03:46 PM ET
I've been seeing a slightly downward trend on the auction sites.
-- EDGEMAN
Jan 13, 2025 at 04:35 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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01/13/25 04:35 PM ET
Backing off of MSRP was a start. Still a ways to go**
-- No Clue
Jan 13, 2025 at 05:42 PM ET
No Clue
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01/13/25 05:42 PM ET