Actually, within a few weeks national fans don't remember either wins or losses unless . As for your narrative that somehow Vt didn't take what was legitimately right there for the takings is pretty much bunk as well. Think about what you just said. A team that is not a national team and is playing with considerably less talent than the real big boys is just not going to win enough against the big boys for the national audience to take more than temporary notice. That does not mean VT didn't miss some opportunities but for way more than you want to admit, it wasn't what VT missed, it is who we are or aren't in the national perspective. Never really were more than ESPN's Cinderella who stayed at the ball too long after MV1 left. The evidence is clear, there is no way a school can work or win its way to blueblood status. As for your list of losses, I agree with you on Kansas and Boise but the others were much more talented teams even UGA. Yes we were ranked but unless you want to trumpet us beating Liberty in 2022 as a marquee win based on rankings, then rankings are only a representation of how a team has done vs the competition it played. Losses to teams like Tennessee and GA when young Manning and Stafford were at the controls have to be based on the team that hit the field that night and not earlier in the season. This whole arguments seems to be that somehow VT should have been able to take much less and win much more over and over until we gained enough more to be on par with the big boys. No one has ever done that. It was never going to work that way even if we won two thirds of your list of losses and you had been in charge of setting the promotion and fund raising for VT.